Are there any fighters in history you think could beat a prime Roy Jones?

I just don't see it mate. I don't remember anyone having success with cutting off the ring against Roy. Basically because Roy didn't really go hiding anyway. It always ended regardless of the style he was up against with Roy coming forward....getting in and out. And the opponent not knowing what to do with him. Roy was a hard puncher when it suited him. His biggest problem when analyzing him a bit like ali pre lay off is they enjoyed themselves in the ring so much they actually held back a lot of the time. Hence the Griffith's fights. He was caught on an off night against Griffith's the first time. The second when he wanted to prove a point he knocked him out in half a round because he was more than capable of punching hard when he wanted to.

You come out to Roy...try to walk him down he,d discourage you with that same power...wasn't,t long before he got the fight to where he liked it best him going in and out and the opponent stuck their not knowing what to do with him. Toney was a master boxer...even when he was an overweight old man he could still hang with decent fighters. He was a smart enough boxer to do that. But even he didn't,t know what to do with Roy. The guy just had too many advantages over pretty much everyone. Roy would have shelled Steve.

 

Thanks for the upload.

I'm going to watch that tomorrow.

 

benn went to the US and lost on either side of that, so he did some good ground work and then proceeded to return to Britain and lost his belt immediately to eubank
and thankyou for reinforcing my about Calzaghe by mentioning michalczewski - yet another fighter gunshy about fighting in the US who, surprise surprise, never fought roy jones

 

informative post. thankyou
and also for saying what bailey never could (the elephant in the room) - that Calzaghe never wanted to go to the US
just imagine what an impact Calzaghe could have made if he destroyed lacy in the US instead of Britain?
really did speak volumes for his intent regarding making his name in the US

 

actually loudon has posted a reply which shows that it really was boxing politics that prevented that fight from happening.

 

Rey Mysterio

 

Sugar Ray Robinson 160

 

I'd favor Roy vs Steve too, I'm just saying I think there's more of an unknown there. The guy used to psyche himself out in the locker room like noone lol. I could see a mid 90s Steve Collins coming out there with a look of fearless intimidation staring down Roy and willing himself to catch up to Roy figure out his style and engage in a knock-down-drag-out fight. I just think Collins stylistically would give Roy problems, probably more problems than Calzaghe would give Roy because I think Calzaghe is more predictable than Collins. Collins could adapt and I believe would come up with a gameplan to give Roy problems. Again, the fight is a big unknown to me, I'm not at all saying I would expect Collins to beat Roy, but all I'm saying is it would be very interesting if these two met at SMW.

 

Joe never wanted to go to the U.S. earlier in his career.

There was nothing wrong with that.

It was up to him.

The only thing I've never liked, is how he claimed he wanted better fights over the years, but couldn't get them.

It was all nonsense. The truth is, he was happy defending his WBO belt in Britain. And if he hadn't have been, he'd have moved up to LHW and fought in the U.S. on his Showtime contract much earlier in his career.

His career was similar to Eubank's. But Eubank admitted that he was content to just defend his WBO belt, whereas Joe never did, despite bragging of his number of title defences.

Bailey will say things like:

"But why should he have given up his belt?

"Which U.S. SMW's did he not fight?"

The truth is, he was starving himself to make SMW, to fight guys like Mario Veit for purses of around $700,000, when he could have been in the mix with the likes of Roy, Dariusz, Hill, Griffin, Nunn, Tarver and Reggie instead. Recognisable names.

 

Steve was a warrior.

He had 100% confidence he could beat Roy.

He truly had a will of iron.

A guy like that in that frame of mind is dangerous to anybody. But realistically, that will can only take you so far.

He'd have pressed Roy hard, but I don't see how he could have coped with Roy's speed.

I think the fight had a Roy U/D written all over it.

 

yes , I think the given is that joe waited becase he knew prime roy would tear joes head off, even in cardiff.

WOuldnt stop the welsh ref from helping joe's head back to his corner to prevent the stoppage though.

 

That's fine and all but nothing to do with Benn not wanting to come over to the US.

 

We've spoken about this before and I agree with you on most things, I was just responding to the previous posters claim that Benn vs Jones didn't happen because Benn wouldn't travel which was not the case at all.