Tyson Fury: did he become a bit of a myth on the back of one win?

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  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Tyson Fury should be judged in the context of the heavyweight scene and the other top heavyweights who populate the scene at the moment.

    Joshua's best win so far is a post-Fury Klitschko.

    Wilder's had 40 fights and none of those wins amount to much at all.

    Parker's resume is equally lacking.

    Ortiz's man claim to being a top HW is beating Bryant Jennings, whose claim to fame was losing to Klitschko.

    Povetkin has accumulated a pretty decent resume, and he's a veteran of course, BUT he couldn't do much against Wlad.

    In this context, Fury deserves to be rated as something special.
    Yes, you can reduce that all down to the "one big win" but that still weighs more than most of whatever those other "top HWs" on this era have got.

    And that's a indictment on the division.
     
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  2. T_S_A_R

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    Watching the Fury Wlad fight I was shocked that Fury kept up his constant motion jerky style for 12 rounds without gassing. Given that he is now a convicted drug cheat with addiction issues it's fair to be sceptical about that performance.

    Fury's reputation is based on winning the worst heavyweight championship fight in history. Despite that I look forward to his inevitable fight against Joshua.
     
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  3. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Imo furys got a better record then aj he beat Cunningham chisora hammer klitschko all of them apart from maby hammer could beat martin whyte molina brezeale so I don't understand why alot of people are claiming fury has a terrible record but aj has a great record must just be his fan boys and fury didn't beat a shot chisora where's a shot chisora beat whyte lol
     
  4. pow

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    Every single test given before and after the Hammer fight have returned clean.

    Excellent post.
     
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  5. underwraps

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    No doubt the Wlad fight was by far the best Tyson we've seen in the best shape he's been in too.Peter must take some credit for that.We all like watching fighters going toe to toe,but its not Tyson's strongest way of fighting against the top guys.
    Whats a myth..he did it.If he gets back into "Wlad" shape,the only way to beat him is to KO him.If he boxes long and gets on his bike,hes a nightmare.
     
  6. lawslaw

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    OMG you talk such absolute rubbish.........

    I am certainly no AJ fan but he absolutely TROUNCES!!!!!!! anything TF has ever done, several times over.

    Brezeale gives TF nightmares......Takem gives TF nightmares......and so would lil Joey Parker.

    As for Dillain Whyte, well that could well be 50/50...
     
  7. Willis Brown

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    Fury's size makes him difficult to beat particularly for most of his career he fought cruiser weights. His pre Wlad win resume had a few average heavyweights I.e Chisora , Hammer but nothing great.His win against Wlad was amazing personally I thought he would get sparked the first time Wlad landed a right on the jaw ! I was wrong and give him credit . It was a boring fight though . Should his comeback materialise, and I think the fact that a Joshua matchup is a big financial event , that he will be back the question is how will his camp ensure he remains unbeaten? He. Needs meaningful tune up fights but that carries risk!
     
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  8. nurological

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    Makes your whole post invalid
     
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  9. nurological

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    He fought cruisers for most of his career?
     
  10. tdf1974

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    i always thought Fury was pretty boring tbh....The win over Klit was very good but there is no way he is entertaining enough to fill stadium after stadium like AJ...

    I think a move to the INGLE gym will do wonders for him though ,if the rumours are true...
     
  11. Bax183

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    Agree. Fury was never the best to watch, but he knew how to get the job done with a great boxing IQ as he did against Wlad in Germany. The only chance he has of selling out a big stadium is if he does end up fighting AJ at some point. I think Fury vs Wlad 2 at the Manchester Arena only shifted around 14,000 tickets before it got postponed/cancelled after tickets being on sale for months. 14K isn't bad, but nowhere near the the amount of tickets that of AJ's shifting for his fights.
     
  12. pow

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    Fury appears to be targeting Manuel Charr.

    Would not be surprised to see them go to Germany where he is a bigger draw and ticket seller. Would easily sell one of those German stadiums for this one.

    He also picks up the WBA regular against Charr who is not a big puncher and was KO'd by cruiser Briedis.
     
  13. Twentyman

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    Brezeale brings nothing to the table apart from durability. Technically an awful boxer. He’d comfortably outbox him for 12 rounds. Takam wouldn’t land a single clean shot & neither would Parker who had a hard enough job trying to land on his cousin. Dillian Whyte would be the easiest of the lot. Another technically poor fighter who thrives in wars of attrition. Something Fury doesn’t get involved in. Easy work.

    I’m not disputing that AJ has a better resume, the lad keeps stepping up to the plate and clearly fears nobody, however, i’m very confident that Fury would have beaten all of AJ’s opponents...albeit, not in a spectacular fashion as AJ has done.
     
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  14. WrightStuff

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    Furys win over Wlad was a great performance, but lets not get carried away.
    He has been able to dine out on that single win for a while now because he's not been in fights where some of his weaknesses can be exposed.
    You can give Fury credit for superbly executing the game plan that night in Dusseldorf but that fight was as much about Wlads inability to take a risk and come forward as it was about Furys awkwardness and making it a nightmare. The punch stats on Wlads side were apalling for that fight. Can Fury take credit for a lot of that ? Sure.
    There are plenty of heavyweights out there who will not be afraid to come forward to take the fight to Fury. He has not got Wilder-esque power that has to be respected and frankly looks clumsy on the inside.
    AJ was not afraid to take the fight to Wlad so he will not be afraid to take the fight to Fury. Do you think Fury will be able to dance all night and AJ will never land ?
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    AJ-Fury isn't even worth talking about. Fury's got a long way to go before we can reckon him any good again. And some here never thought he was good at all.
    AJ needs to get past his tests too.

    Despite what's been said to the contrary, AJ doesn't yet have a superior resume to Fury's.
    A win over Parker should be enough to surpass it.
    (I can't believe people can actually bother to argue the case for Breazeale, Molina, Martin, Takam over Chisora x2, Cunningham, Hammer etc. .... it's marginal. We're talking about a bunch of fringe contenders)

    The fact that old Wladimir is the best win by far on both their records, shows how underappreciated Wladimir was in his own reign.

    Fury certainly doesn't deserve to be remember as anything more than a "one hit wonder" until he does something more, and that's a big ask of him. I doubt his ability to do so.
     
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