Some sickening boxrec calibre analysis of Kalambay in this thread. Almost bad enough to properly bring me out of self-imposed retirement. Golovkin fought his reign in the worst middleweight decade of the sports history. It makes the decline in middleweight division talent we saw in the latter half of B-Hops reign look like a murderers row. He's a very good fighter, but the number of likewise very good\excellent middleweights that fought in MUCH better times for the division that would have an excellent chance to run up a long title run in the **** weak era of the Macklin, Murray's, Geales, Rubio's, Jacobs etc is a large one. He ain't nearly as likely to go long term undefeated in any era pre mid-00s. Gennady's comp until the Canelo fight is the kind of long title run opposition that had many sceptical about older WBO champs like Eubank and Calzaghe, in fact imo it's clearly worse than either and about one or two steps up from my boy Artur Grigorian's long WBO lightweight run. How you doing McGrain?.
Kalambay by decision. Which is why the Nunn fight surprised me. I almost see the Nunn fight as a fluke. Most fights I see as real knockouts no matter what, but Kalambay being knocked out like that I saw as a bit of a fluke. It was unheard of to happen like that.
I bet most of the UK posters think a lot of Kalambay as he beat your best. GGG won both fights vs Canelo ( Media cards prove this by vast majority ) , and to use an example of when he was 35 or 36 in a fantasy fight is pretty uneven analysis. Six different boxers beat Kalambay. If he fought GGG in his prime, it would be seven.
For only 3 of those was Kalambay prime. You don't want to use examples of Golovkin when he was35/36,but you are happy to include Kalambay defeats when he was 35 against McCallum and 37 against Pyatt and his loss in his 4 th fight?
Yeah, that's it, it's my British bias shining through. It's nice to know that my attempts at objectivity and balanced posting all these years weren't in vain. I ain't arguing with you about Golovkin, lad. You're comically biased and divorced from reality where your favourites are concerned, especially Eastern Europeans. Same for your dislikes; the hours I've seen you waste on here over the years dragging out arguments with weird mental arithmetic, arbitrary points of reference and distortion of facts to suit your agenda has bolloxed my eyes up from rolling them all the time. You said on a Golovkin-McCallum thread a bit ago that Daniel Jacobs was better than Kalambay; that's enough for me to know that we're fundamentally opposed here with no chance of seeing eye to eye, as are the endlessly fanatical and mildly tedious campaigns to denigrate Lewis, Louis, Johnson and deify Golovkin, Kovalev, the Klit Brothers etc. It's basically trolling as far as I can see tbh, but you seem to escape the sort of ridicule for that the likes of rooster, MAG1965, frankenfrank and others have copped for over the years (other than the legendary repeated beatings from the man mountain that is mcvey). I'm out, bloke. I've got a life and no desire to get drawn into this. If you want to take that as proof that you're right and I'm wrong, you crack on and do just that. My dinner is nearly burnt in the oven.
this reminds me that there's no fighter around these days who could jab with authority like kalambay. golovkin's the typical modern-day plodding robot with a rudimentary skillset.
I don’t think it is a stretch to pick to either guy. Nor an insult to either to pick the other. I would pick GGG on decision, but expect it would be close either way.
i favor golovkin. sure, kalambay was a cutie, but golovkin isnt just some hard punching pressure fighter. the mans jab was one of the best ever at middleweight and his power was Special as well. kalambay was dropped by light hitting kalule and blasted out by the not exactly heavy handed Michael nunn. GGG´s class would break down kalambay for either a late stoppage or wide UD.
Then he lost to 3 men in his youth and prime. How many did GGG lose to in his your or prime? That would be zero. As usual your badly out gunned.
Look a the votes dude. The UK posters are picking the guy who beat their own. To start out with GGG's judges robbery at a late age shows how objective you are on this topic.