With the Ortiz victory, does Deontay Wilder already surpass both Klitschko bros on the ATG list?

Luis Ortiz > The Tony Thompson who outlanded Wlad on total punches and power punches before being stopped in the 11th.

If Wlad hugged Ortiz as much as he did Thompson and got hit with as many clean left hand lead counters as he did against Thompson , then he would have been sparko'd out for the count like he was against Sanders.

To add insult to injury , Tony had a bum knee going into the fight which made his movement slower than usual. Wlad still got his face all bust up and held so much it was really deserving of a DQ loss .

https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...h-tony-thompson-of-usa-the-picture-id81925563

Look at him^^ The Tigers back is turned and he's still drapped all over him. lol .

 

Who has Ortiz beat?

 

No, he wouldn't! Luis Ortiz's power is overrated. Who did he KO unconscious at the elite level ranked in the top 10? Exactly! Nobody at all!

Wladimir Klitschko sorted out his technical problems that he had against southpaws after the Corrie Sanders fight. Since then, southpaws never bothered him and Luis Ortiz certainly wouldn't. If Samuel Peter couldn't spark Wladimir Klitschko, then neither is Luis Ortiz.

There's nothing that the version of Luis Ortiz that fought Deontay Wilder, does better than prime Sultan Ibragimov.

 

Sultan Ibragimov was never stopped, never KO'ed or never dropped in his pro career. Ergo, he never had a 'glass' chin or heart.

Luis Ortiz fought Bryant Jennings coming off a loss against Wlad and an old Tony Thompson who was already KO'ed by Wlad. As it stands, Sultan Ibragimov's win over Evander Holyfield and Shannon Briggs > anything Luis Ortiz or Bryant Jennings have done.

Sultan Ibragimov faced a PRIME Wladimir Klitschko. Bryant Jennings faced a declining Wladimir klitschko. Still, Jennings didn't do anything better offensively that was effective than what Ibragimov did.

Most of what Jennings did to Wlad were headbutts, along with holding and hitting. That's it! Whilst Sultan Ibragimov landed some decent body shots on Wladimir Klitschko without needing to foul like how Bryant Bummings needed to by diving in with his head like a ******.

The holding by Wlad was initiated by Bryant Bummings because he was diving in with his head like a ******.

 

Ibragimov has a win over Briggs who was a former lineal champion & current (at the time) WBO champion. Beat Foreman, Liakovich etc.. Exactly who has Ortiz beat?

 

Wladimir Klitschko didn't know his ass from his elbow against Thompson in 2008 - 5 years after the the Sanders loss. He relied on his power , not his boxing ability to beat Thompson. If Sanders was in there that night , Wladimir Klitschko would have been knocked out again.

 

Sultan Ibragimov couldn't beat and was floored by Ray Austin who has a meager 44% stoppage rate. Even Harlod Scorniers was able to beat Ray Austin. haha!!

Ibragabum fought like a scared pansy against a sick Shannon Briggs who was only able to throw about 5 punches a round. He took one loss where he was barely touched and ran out of the sport.
He wouldn't last a wet week in todays landscape.

 

So who's Ortiz beat then?

 

1st off Ortiz is at least 45, everyone knows he's older than it shows on paper but no one suspects he's actually almost 10 years older, Ortiz was a pro boxer in Cuba, the Cuban Government stuck Ortiz into competing against the worlds best amateurs while being a pro, like Olympic games, The US after decades learned that most countries recruit pros, and the Dream Team of Basketball was born, so the US put their pros in as well, Ortiz's coach who was a communist filed out the papers and shows he's much younger but he's actually 44 or 45

 

Wilder hasn't even surpassed Sam Peter

 

never fought anyone greeat either, let alone beat em.

but still, never dropped

 

Okay! He may have been dropped once. So was Luis Ortiz. None of that changes the fact that he was a title holder and beat Evander Holyfield and Shannon Briggs. These two feats alone >>>> any thing Byrant Bummings or Luis Oldtease have accomplished in the heavyweight division.

Ergo, Sultan Ibragimov >> Luis Old Tease and Bryant Bummings.

No contest whatsoever!

 

Nope, he wouldn't. Wladimir Klitschko never had problems against southpaws after the first Corrie Sanders fight. And even if he did, Corrie Sanders is an exception because he isn't like any other southpaw in terms of the angles and speed he punches at.

The Luis Old-Tease that Deontay Wilder fought wouldn't pose half the threat that Corrie Sanders posed to Wladimir Klitschko.

 

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