Brook: I would destroy Spence in a rematch

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jmashyaka, Mar 8, 2018.


How would a rematch play out?

  1. Spence wins again

  2. Brook avenges his loss

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Even though Brook was in a terrible place mentally when he fought Spence, badly weight drained, coming off a loss - the first loss of his career and a stoppage loss no less - and also coming off eye surgery after sustaining a terrible injury to it during that loss and not even knowing if he would still have sight in that eye post surgery, I do give Spence credit for being an American fighter that was actually prepared to use his passport and willing to fight on a playing field that wasn't heavily weighted in his favour. Most American fighters fold like a cheap suit when you take them out of their comfort zone and you get them on a level playing field or one that isn't weighted in their favour so we have to give Spence credit for that even though Brook was only at 45%.
     
    Serge, Mar 9, 2018
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  2. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Come on man, different class. Brook would have steamrolled both. He was after Thurman, Garcia, Alvarez, Pacquiao or Mayweather for a money/unification fight at the time and couldn't get it. Golovkin was the next logical choice, in terms of money and challenging himself.
     
    Vykus, Mar 9, 2018
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  3. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Brook in WW run, turned down Bradley, Chaves, Rios, Alexander and Vargas. All of them better than the names on his resume at the time except Porter.
     
    jmashyaka, Mar 9, 2018
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I never said they would have beaten him and he and Hearn never made any push to fight those guys you mentioned.
    You can't say ' I want Mayweather' and then claim Mayweather ducked when it didn't happen.
     
    dinovelvet, Mar 9, 2018
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  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Crikey , i forgot about Rios.
     
    dinovelvet, Mar 9, 2018
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  6. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Money, status and weight.
     
    Vykus, Mar 9, 2018
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  7. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He would have been a unified champ? Is that not a good enough status. Rather than the guy who got his face broken by GGG. What would you rather?

    After he beats Vargas he could gone after Thurman in unification for undisputed or thought Errol, not coming of an injury and a stoppage loss.
     
    jmashyaka, Mar 9, 2018
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  8. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Yet none of them could have challenged him or made him more money than the guys he did fight. Yes, he avoided those greats and ran away straight into Golovkin and Spence lol.
     
    Vykus, Mar 9, 2018
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  9. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When he avoided those guys, Golovkin and Spence weren’t even on the table at the time. You really need to go check the time line on Brooks career, I’ve been following Brook since the Carson jones fights. I’m knowledgeable on what he did and didn’t do.

    He never wanted to fight Spence, he was backed into a corner and knew the fans wouldn’t have let him live it down if he ducked him.
     
    jmashyaka, Mar 9, 2018
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  10. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Yes, he never wanted to fight Spence, that's why he's already fought him and is calling him out again. Isn't it Spence saying he will only give him a rematch if he has a belt? Golovkin was an international star before Brook even won his title, how wasn't he on the table? I've followed Kell Brook and boxing for many years too, what ive seen over the years is Brook turning down the US welterweight leftovers while holding/calling out the US stars, and if his performances against Porter, Golovkin, and Spence are anything to go by, rightfully so.
     
    Vykus, Mar 9, 2018
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  11. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I implore to go do some research, just coz someone does something doesn’t mean they wanted to do it. The situation was he was gunna get stripped if he didn’t so he chose to not get stripped and go through with it.

    Loool your brook fan boy, the guy had one name on his resume after 10 years a pro and you think that is someone who should be turning down the likes of Timothy Bradley or Alexander?
     
    jmashyaka, Mar 9, 2018
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  12. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't turn those guys down any more than they turned him down. Kell was not a draw, he couldn't afford to pay them what they wanted.

    You seem very keen to criticize Brook.
     
    Gneus7, Mar 9, 2018
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  13. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chaves he turned him down. Bradley he didn’t wanna go to US but Eddie wasn’t prepared to pay up. Alexander it was both there faults to be fair, Rios Eddie didn’t wanna pay and kell didn’t wanna travel again.
     
    jmashyaka, Mar 9, 2018
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  14. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Done plenty of research. Im not a huge Brook fan, Porter is my guy at Welterweight. But if you really think Brook was avoiding Spence by moving up 2 weight divisions to face Golovkin, and then moving back down to face Spence on the back of a defeat and a serious injury, and now calling him out again, well good luck to ya. And yes, those are guys Brook should have definitely turned down. Bradley was beaten by Pacquiao and Alexander was beaten by Khan at the time, like I said, no leftovers. Brook is a huge draw and a star in the UK and is after the big fights, that's why he turned down Vargas in the hope he would get Pacqiuao after their fight, and why hes still calling out the likes of Spence, Khan, Pacqiuao etc right now.
     
    Vykus, Mar 9, 2018
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  15. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No Alexander wasn’t beaten by Khan at the time the Brook fight was proposed that came after. Bradley had just come off a win against Manny at the time, this was for a title. Seriously you need to do the research on Brooks career, I was a brook fan when this was all going down, I’m still a Brook fan but I don’t overate him like a lot of these other guys.
     
    jmashyaka, Mar 9, 2018
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