Someone should do a comparison to boxers of old,that’s not to say they never used anything,far from it but I’m betting the difference is huge.
There’s a thought that due to VADA he’s lost his gains that he undoubtedly had around the time he was gonna go to Russia. If true though you gotta say about Wilder that with his natural attributes he’s one guy who doesn’t need or rely on PEDs as his power is natural despite his poor skills.
A thought? But where was the evidence Andrew? Or, show at least how something is very suspicious. Wilder never was especially muscular, very defined, moderate upper body muscle mass, nothing like a Joshua, & no legs. There are folks insisting everyone uses? Really? How is that logical or defensible? Anyone MIGHT be using. I agree with you on Wilder in that he is more likely not to be... Someone said Joshua & Wilder gained 30 lbs. of muscle in 12 months. THAT would almost certainly indicate they were on drugs. But did either of them actually do that? Show me the actual verified numbers of their weight within one year. Then consider whether some fat or water weight was added-it would be unusual if there was none, & on a lean & large frame 10-15 lbs of this around the muscle would not be easy to detect, & the guy can still look fairly ripped. Just dehydration within a day can vary weight 10% or so! That does not = actual skeletal muscle. Joshua is the size of many juicers. Problem is, some guys do have that natural potential. They tend to have huge bone structures, but lifting for years, they are out there. And then some who are not big & may be overweight use-& how effective anyone is depends upon PEDs used, how combined or "stacked" & genetic potential. I am against all of it. It is unnatural, & you rob innocent athletes of their hopes & dreams, or at least steal success, sometimes fame & fortune, that you do not deserve. Here are some pretty solid indications of NATURAL genetic potential for muscle. Though I just read that even some used for these studies, like Reg Park & Steve Reeves, may have been using something... I think these are pretty excellent guides. The model by Casey Butts (real name...) seems the best, since it takes into account bone structure. [url]https://bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html[/url] Shorthand for what anyone might reach naturally, lifetime... [url]http://www.weightrainer.net/bodypred.html[/url] Bear in mind many overestimate their muscle because they underestimate their fat. I recall one guy saying in comments he thought he was 11% body fat due to seeing some abs. That is ridiculous. I have been able to see at least a faint, assymetrical 4 pack even with a waist up to 41 1/2". Past exertions & especially subcutaneous vs. visceral fat allows for variations in definition, as does HgH... 30 lbs. of pure muscle in 1 year, that would be PEDs. Big bones & tall & a very effective program, maybe 22.5 in the FIRST year max., then slowing, dramatically so after 2-3 years. The law of diminishing returns. 30-40 lbs of muscle over an AVERAGE build dude with the same body height & bone structure, over a lifetime is what is possible. Half as much for woman. Maybe a bit more if you are Joshua's size, more if you are Shaq's size... Less if you are tiny &/or hormonally challenged. But do not just look at someone & assume they are dirty. Unless you see a body that could not possibly occur naturally, like average height & very lean at anywhere approaching 300 lbs. Or gaining extremely fast, especially when already big-not just underweight &/or very young & filling out. We gotta be fair & scien-terrific here!
I doubt wilder is on roids, he's a powerful and aggessive specimen but it seems to be natural for him, but who knows, any athlete could possibly be juicing. Time will tell on him if he is tho.
Yes he has. It becomes obvious when you look at his weights from amateur to pro and beyond. Just compare it With Mike Tyson for refrences.
Well, you have to factor in the fact that Wilder has HAYMON BOXING INSURANCE, so he can get away with it just like El Pollo!
All top level athletes use PED's in almost every sport. I'm related to a trainer who helped train an Olympic gold medalist in discus throwing, he told me that. He told me that light PED usage is relatively easy to hide, heavy blasting not so much. Take Olympic weightlifting for example, basically everyone at that sport has been busted for PED's at some point in their career, some even multiple times. It's difficult to hide for them because they blast big amounts. In some sport they use PED's legally even, in skiing for example - apparently they're all asthmatics there and need their medicine.
Lol well that’s actually a good point cause for all his supposed poor skill as a boxer he don’t half keep winning.im referring to Teddy Atlas vid on Wilder over reaching,balance ect although I think he’s improved since then,his jab most noticeabley has got better. Thing is that we all point to fights against lesser guys where it looked like he was getting outboxed but there’s a thought that he fights down to the level of opposition and that he was luring em in all along and as he’s just done the same to Ortiz you can’t call it a fluke can you?
