Does Pacquiao deserve to go down as an ATG?

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  1. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. Stefz

    Stefz Member Full Member

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    British.

    Willie Pep - 27% KO ratio
    Manny Pac - 56% KO Ratio.

    Aggression is seen in bars in America, but being able to use aggression effectively against top competition and not getting caught every time takes skill and control. Manny beat alot of his opposition to the punch, which in terms either means his "timing" or "hand speed" is superior.
    And its not like the Pacman picked 2nd rate competition.... JMM, Morales, DLH, Cotto, Hatton, Mosley, Magarito, Barrera, Tim Bradley, Mayweather. Yes, some were past there prime or not "elite" level but its still a decent resume especially with how many weight class's he moved up.
     
  3. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    Stupid thread.
     
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  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac is the highest ranked fighter at least since RJJ.
     
  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do ice cubes make my water cold?
     
  6. Stefz

    Stefz Member Full Member

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    By Nation. I don't Define boxing by a nationality as boxers aren't defined by the nation. Some are stereotypical to their nation, but not all. America has alot of the High End boxers today, due to the investment + Funding + paydays in American Boxing. Considering my top 8 P4P is under 25% American at the moment (And i personally like alot of American Boxers).

    Do no define my nationality by 2 lousey/twisted PM's. One is too far left, one is too far right even for my taste. (Thats neither here nor there though).
    Ratio's put into balance the fight rate of champions of today to the past. No point comparing a person with 300 fights to one with 50 on the amount of KO's.

    George Foreman had no talent/technique to the eye, but he used his advantages to win the fight. As Bernard Hopkins loved to shout - "Its all about the W". Not every boxer will have the finesse of Pep or the skill as Sugar Ray or the speed of Ray Leonard, but Pac used his strengths to build a solid career over various weights, various styles and varying level of competition.
     
  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Pac used his speed to counter punch and overwhelm his opponents. He usually just probed with the jab to find openings. Jabbing with Pacquiao was a death sentence for the average fighters. He would time it perfectly.
     
  8. Larry # 9

    Larry # 9 New Member banned Full Member

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    Is that a serious question?
     
  9. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    yes he dose he's a beast
     
  10. Gneus7

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  11. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He don't have The Magic Man Paulie Malignaggi in his resume.
     
  12. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Name me 5 other fighters that gave hell to the likes of Marquez, Barrera, Morales and destroyed someone on the level of Hatton and Cotto. I'm talking the quality of opposition. Beat the 3 best Mexican fighters in the last 20 years, destroyed a top 3 Brit in the last 20 years and beat the best Puerto Rican in the last 20 years. Arguably!
     
  13. Stefz

    Stefz Member Full Member

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    Clearly you are delusional. You use politics in a debate about boxing yet by your clear definition of british politics are clueless.
    It must suck when the cash cows of an "american" sport are not american.
    Notice the overwhelming support for pac-man and like good old politics, majority rules.
     
  14. Stefz

    Stefz Member Full Member

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    I think you lost the plot. Enjoy ranting off topic.
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2018
  15. Draperys

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    How can you say a eight division world champion doesn’t know what he’s doing? :duh