GGG: Canelo is cheating

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    What's convinced you he is not a drugs cheat is that you're a fan of his. If failed drugs tests don't suggest to you that he's cheated then nothing will.

    I'm sure if another boxer failed and was banned for some other reason then you'd find some other tenuous difference to try and differentiate hia circumstances from the offending incident. Frankly I find your arguments weak and unconvincing.

    I hate the 'GGG would of murdered Hagler' goons as much as the next man but you 'failed drugs tests don't mean anything when Alvarez does it' Canelovers are something else.
     
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  2. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo's as bent as a nine bob note.
     
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    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GGG should either pull out of this fight (if he really thinks Alvarez's cheating) or he should keep quiet!
    Otherwise it does sound like an excuse a little bit...
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    it is feasible actually., to the extent of suffering side effects, its well documented even on a source as thickbrick as wikipedia. if people can get poisoned on it, then you'd hve to be lying to claim that trace amounts wont be found in people. cos it takes more than a trace to make someone sick.

    that doesnt mean Clenelol's not lying, thats feasible too. He looks very beefy for sure.
     
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  6. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If testing positive isn't even an indication, what is?

    Previously you had admitted that there were two possible explanations and that you did not know which was the truth: contaminated meat, or cheating.

    Now apparently you think that it certainly is contaminated meat with 100% certainty, otherwise the positive test does increase the odds and thus indicate (if not prove) that Canelo is a cheat.

    What changed?

    Canelo's co-trainer is a butcher, and his family are involved in the meat industry, and yet you don't think he "should have known that Mexico has a contaminated meat problem"?

    If he was "buying premium meat locally that had clenbutrol [sic] in it", it is still his / his team's fault for neglecting to ensure that the source was clean.

    Professional superstars are ultimately responsible for what goes into their bodies. You can't excuse Canelo of all responsibility just like that.
     
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  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    why are people so biased?

    the answer is he might be, he might not. you all should be posting that
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Tescos apparently didnt know they had horse meat in their beef for years.
     
  9. Stefz

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    If you add up all the evidence;
    • Body Transformation
    • 2 x Failed Drug Tests
    • Previous Clear corruption favouring Canelo
    • The Lack of evidence proving that it was from meat, (Receipts, proof of visit etc)
    • The vast amount of clenbuetorol in his system compared to previously banned athletes.
    • Canelo some how, always managed to be lean at the top end of the weight division hes competing at, and some how, always larger muscle-wise compared to the other boxer who naturally sits at that weight.
    Occum's Razor.
     
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  10. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he had a banned substance in his system and it was detected.

    Whether this was intentional or not matter not a jot. Its still classed as cheating, having Clen in your system will benefit a fighter it could be minuscule it could be massive differences again it does not matter. its still illegal, the debate here is not how much of an advantage it gives you or how much of a difference it will make its about whether he had a banned substance in his system which he did.

    Cheating is cheating whether he was aware of it or not. thats just fact.
     
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    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I can't believe this junkie hasn't been banned from the sport.

    Track marks all over his God damn ginger body and there are fools on here still defending him.

    Unbelievable.

    Just imagine what would happen if GGG decided to take roids. It doesn't bear thinking about what would happen to his opponents.
     
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  13. HerolGee

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    only if you are stupid enough to think that a weak judge also happens to have a sideline business in ordering Canelos beef for him.

    how stupid would you need to be to draw that conclusion, I dont know, but a judge and his possible beef shopping/possible PED use are totally mutually exclusive events to anyone with any sense.
     
  14. Stefz

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    If hes ok with having judges on his side, i think using PED's will not worry him either.

    You are trying to defend a guy who got caught with 10x the legal limit of Clen his system.

    Its like a Driver getting banned for drink driving then blaming "eating a brandy infused christmas pudding" for why he was over....
     
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  15. Stefz

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    You also failed to mention my other points regarding Canelo's physique.