Has Aj’s Stock Dropped

Parker was in range for the whole fight. Especially the first half. Out threw Joshua in that time and was completely within reach getting off first. It completely reversed in the second half, yes. Joshua was plodding and failing to cut off the ring the entire fight though. His foot speed was far too slow to accomplish that. Hence everyone calling him a robot. Even when he was controlling the fight and in the rounds he won it wasn't due to his foot speed or foot placement. It was despite that... I will give you a small nod that defensively he was relative to his size somewhat quick on his half-steps back. Even then, I think that was optically aided by the height difference.

 

For me, it's rising. I'm actually becoming a Joshua fan, OMG.

 

If you're talking stock regarding his standing within boxing history, then that'll have to wait until his career is done.

If you're talking stock as in value, I agree with the poster who points out that casuals won't stick around for scrappy points wins. Imagine if Hughie Fury ( or at least someone with his style ) was in the position AJ is, with the same promoter etc. He wouldn't be filling out stadiums no matter how they forced him down people's throats. They could play a montage of Fury patting all and sundry with his jab in every commercial break but it'd hardly entice a half cut factory worker to part with £20 for a PPV or £50+ for a ticket. Casuals like the idea of two heavyweights going toe to toe. You don't have to do it every time, but a couple of years of that and his revenue would go down, how much I wouldn't know. Never underestimate how much the Brits like an excuse for a **** up though.

 

I agree completely with your premise but I'm still dumfounded with fans claiming nonsense all these figure where wilder was "outboxed" prior to the ko, seriously that's the biggest BS wishful thinking

At NO time were Szpilka or Washington ever outboxing DW. Not truthfully for a single full round of either match up was DW truly being outboxed. There were some rounds that were tough to Scott and there were rounds that truly could go to either fighter but never one round where DW was truly being outboxed.

Unless your definition of being outboxed occurs in dearly even rounds, that's not what I feel being outboxed is.

Ortiz is the only opponent I've seen outbox DW with any consistency at all and even that fight was more win a round lose a round. I had that fight pretty close prior to the stoppage round, I think round 11.
Of course dw has the advantage of the extra point for the kd in the more rounds.

Enough with the nonsense of the trolls claiming DW and AJ.(every champ that's elite really) lose every single round they aren't dominating and be losing and being clearly outboxed and exposed prior to then scoring the luckiest KO.

 

I don’t know about his stock but we’ll know whether his balls have dropped when we see if he signs to fight Wilder next.

 

Now wlad was "SHOT" ?
Here we have a troll that should try explaining himself. What would be the reasons or evidence that could make any sane man come to such a ridiculous conclusion

 

It'll be interesting who they put him in with next. Despite AJ's claims he was happy to win with so-called 'boxing finesse', he will not want another points win to follow this one... otherwise his reputation as a human wrecking ball will be soured in the eyes of his 'football fan' following. I suspect they will throw someone under a bus and secure another highlight reel KO...

 

I see his strategy now is not to get hit, which is highly sensible when he has to face Wilder and Pov in the near future. Likewise if Ortiz or even Miller are future opponents.

 

I had Parker a slight favourite to win so I can say Joshua's stock has risen with me.

Generally I don't know. I never bought into the hype so those who do will be best to answer whether his stock dropped or not. I would assume so but the hype is so huge I wonder if it ever will subside. Similar to Mike Tyson, whose hype was so strong he's still heavily overrated to this day. Joshua isn't that good but the hype might have similar effects. When Joshua does get defeated I expect a whole heap of excuses and rationalizations to explain it away as a fluke event, as Tyson still gets now. The masses certainly don't figure Joshua of the highlight reels to be capable of losing.
Let's be honest, most Joshua fans probably figure he won every round against Parker while having a bad night. Or that he took it easy on Parker to get the extent experience of getting 12 rounds in. And AJ is a nice guy so he didn't want to hurt a nice fella like Parker too bad in front on his mother.

Eddie Hearn will look to line up a voluntary next somehow, get a crushing early KO against s Molina type, just to top up the hype machine.
Which is fair enough.

 

I’m not Joshua’s biggest fan but everyone gets taken the distance.Murderous hitters like Joe Louis and Mike Tyson were taken the distance, and Parker is known to have a solid chin, they don’t all roll over.

 

If you like exciting fights, where two guys look to take the other's head off, Joshua's stock has DROPPED in a major way because of his last two fights.

If you like matches where two guys barely land, neither is willing to go for the exciting KO win, the officiating is terrible, and both boxers walk away with no marks on them ... Joshua's stock is fine.

In my view, Joshua's stock has gone down.

People don't care how many pretty belts he grabs, they want excitement. Joshua was providing them with excitement up to ... and including ... the Wlad fight.

His last two fights have been absolute stinkers. And if those were the only fights of his you'd seen, you'd have no idea what all the fuss was about.

Wlad made a lot of money boring the hell out of people 90 percent of the time, with a cautious, tedious approach. Maybe that's Joshua's plan going forward, too.

But, after a while, even networks that fawned over Wlad early on, like HBO, just quit broadcasting his fights for a couple years.

I think Dana White's offer was quietly removed from the table yesterday.

 

I don't recall a fight where Mike Tyson and Joe Louis stood a foot outside of punching range and pawed with punches that were far too short to ever land, waiting for the other person to do something first, and the other person never does, but that's what made up the vast majority of the fight on Saturday.

Parker was a lot busier than Joshua, if he was a foot closer and in punching range, maybe something would've landed. And Joshua just followed him around and missed everything he threw when he got close.

When Parker did land, Joshua seemed to want to call time. And the ref obliged.

It was the most boring fight I've seen in a while that involved little clinching ... because they were too far away from each other to even do that.

It stunk. That's being polite.

I would've ruled it a draw simply because neither guy did enough to win and neither appeared to lose.

Like many have said, if it was on Parker's home turf, he very well could've received the nod, and people would've reacted with the same kind of half-hearted shrug.

It was about as close to a non-fight as you get with two guys who are supposedly near the top of a division.

Joshua and Parker both became popular to their local fans when they were blowing guys out.

Nobody wants to see fights like we saw Saturday from either of them.

 

I'll never understand why Lubbers never legally changed his first name to Land. Missed opportunity.

 

Having that name would certainly keep you grounded, I'd think. At the very least you wouldn't have your head in the clouds.

 

Well I haven’t seen the fight yet, but it sounds like one of Wlad’s fights!