Lennox Lewis historical standing without avenging his losses.

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  1. The Long Count

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    When Tyson went away King put together some great cards and also allowed Chavez’s career to flourish. Not being able to sign the Klitschko’s hurt him - and in some way them early on as well- as they would of been better marketed by King. However they made right choice in long run. King was hurt by that and basically by all the dirty laundry that got aired out by previous fighters under him like Spoon and Tyson. Nobody would sign with him anymore plus he got old, not everyone ages like Arum Lol.
     
  2. steve1990

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    He didn't train much at all for the Lennox Lewis fight either. He really lost his passion for boxing by that time.

    King's downfall began in 99 when Lewis beat Holyfield. Which is why he did the Ruiz Holyfield trilogy. It's also why he tried to shove John Ruiz down the boxing public's throat at that time.
     
  3. HerolGee

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    sorry to hear you added carte blanche ignorance to your pedantry.
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you've not advanced your argument, why would i get back to you.
     
  5. rski

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    he should never have lost to Rahman, it was a pretty embarrassing loss really, added to the fact Lewis was walking him down. Not avenging it would have been a negative I think because a lot of weight goes into proving things in boxing. someone would always be saying what if Rahman landed that right again, many people were betting on him beating Lewis in the rematch as well. It was a brilliant come back and reminded you that despite all that pressure, Lewis was a great fighter.

    I also think the rematch with McCall was next to pointless, it didn't make Lewis look great either, he fought very nervous and still couldn't take out a defenseless head case.
     
  6. Threetime no1

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    It was to regain the WBC belt and become a two-time champ, so hardly pointless. Who Don King manoeuvered into that fight isn't Lewis' fault.

    Regarding the fight, Lewis fought well before and after McCall's head melted. He looked imposing and was looking to land with authority against a man who beat him prior. He countered Mcall with some hard shots that didn't help his mental health either.

    Still couldn't take out a defenseless head case?

    Lewis handled the situation well. Plus McCall's chin = GOAT
     
  7. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ok point well made, the remark was overly harsh, but I do remember Lewis being pretty worried at times but he was in a high pressure situation. which he did handle well to be fair, especially when McCall charged at him like a nutter seemingly impervious to any of Lewis's offence. he just had that bad run of luck with head cases, followed by Akinwande
     
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  8. The Long Count

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    Wow you were banned and after nearly two weeks your first thing to do is jump onto an old thread that hasn’t been active in over a week to quote me. I’m flattered. You really should charge me rent, for taking up so much space in your head. But not too much it’s only a studio.
     
  9. Threetime no1

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    Fair play on acknowledging the harshness.

    There was going to be some apprehension, the man floored him the last time they fought. But Lewis looked sharp and focused, if a little heavy.

    Yeah his run of head cases continued after McCall and Akinwande, with Golota. Which fortunately went better.
     
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  10. Rumsfeld

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    I think his legacy would take a major hit if he hadn't avenged those losses. But I guess it's impossible to know how things may otherwise have played out.

    For instance, if Bowe hadn't been troubled by Golota, then Lewis and Bowe were signed to square off in 1996. Tyson would have kept the WBC for a longer stretch, and with Lennox facing Bowe, we never see the McCall rematch (and I'm assuming that you don't mean he lost his rematches, but rather, that he never attempted reversing them, or never got the opportunity to).

    But if Lennox faces Bowe instead of Lewis, and still goes on to defeat Tyson, Holyfield 2x, and Bowe - it may not have hurt it so badly.
     
  11. HerolGee

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    you are raising a fuss because YOU also answered my post, remember?

    so you are talking about yourself. You are too easy.
     
  12. The Long Count

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    Lame
    Try harder
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    same back at you, since you are replying. Why try harder than the ease needed to rebuke u?

    This point might have gone past u.
     
  14. The Long Count

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    Still lame you can do better
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    the same, you not getting this concept that your reply is reflected back at you yet.