Toughest Trainers

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  1. Sugar 88

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    So if we were have a tourney of boxing trainers, who do we think would come out on top?
     
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    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Youth, fitness and size.... Shane McGuigan
     
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    The Harrison brothers. A couple of tough tough guys in their time, Humphrey and Oliver.
     
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    Gennady Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd Sr.
     
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    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    The man with the most champions raised from diapers to championship belts, Ignacio "Nacho" Beristain.
    Check the CV.
    Ricardo López - four time champion (hall of fame member)
    Juan Manuel Márquez - four division champion
    Rafael Márquez - two division champion
    Daniel Zaragoza - four time champion (hall of fame member)
    Humberto González - four time champion (hall of fame member)
    Victor Rabanales - bantamweight champion
    Oscar De La Hoya - six division champion
    Jorge Arce - four time champion
    Guty Espadas - flyweight champion
    Guty Espadas, Jr. - featherweight champion
    Alfredo Angulo - jr middleweight prospect
    Enrique Sánchez - bantamweight champion
    Gilberto Román - two time champion (with 11 title defenses)
    Jhonny González - two division champion
    Melchor Cob Castro - two time champion
    Rodolfo López - featherweight champion
    Alejandro Barrera - jr middleweight prospect
    Abner Mares - bantamweight champion
    Vicente Escobedo - former title challenger
    Juan Carlos Salgado - two time champion
    Jorge Paez - two time champion
    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr - middleweight champion
    Rey Vargas - super bantamweight champion
     
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    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I don't know but one could start by listing those with the most notable in-ring accomplishments. Then you factor in their age and what we could speculate about their physical appearance and body upkeep... Throughout history, quite a few legends have technically become trainers at some point (as in, worked a corner as the head trainer) even if not for long and not to much success.
     
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    LitoCandela Active Member Full Member

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    Nacho is my favorite trainer style wise.
    Anne Wolf would probably eat most trainers alive.
    Floyd Sr would talk/rhyme all to death.
     
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    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nacho is very underrated and should get way more love on the basis of his work with Finito and JMM alone.

    That said, it’s misleading to list a few of these fighters as diapers to champions because of Nacho. Oscar and Mares come quickly to mind.
     
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    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    But you mentioned Lopez and Juan who he really did raise in the ring.
     
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    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’m confused...please explain.
     
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    Jackie McCoy
     
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    Abel Sanchez will take ANYONE from 112-122!
     
  13. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I didn't mean he raised every fighter on the list but he did bring up Lopez and Marquez from boys to men and into champions for example. I should have explained better.
     
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    Eddie Futch could be a really tough trainer, but if you would listen to him his training paid off for sure. Bowe would never have become champion if not for Futch, in fact, Bowe was lazy, Eddie was not in Bowe's corner in the second Bowe/Golota fight as he was so angry! You see what happened to Bowe when he quit listening to Papa Smurf? Eddie was a great person and trainer, but he could be difficult if you did not listen to him, he was truly one of the greatest trainers in boxing history...............
     
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    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That’s what I thought, just wanted to make sure.
    I agree 100% and that’s what I said in my original post.
    Bottom line, JMM was a bad boy and Finito was a vast bit better than him.
    Those 2 guys were supreme technicians who clearly owe their development to Nacho. He didn’t just make them champions, he went 2 steps further than that. He made them HOFers AND ATGs at their respective weights.

    Has Freddie Roach trained anyone from diapers to titles?