Paulie Malinaggi speaking some truth on Canelo...

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  1. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Believe it or not I agree with what a lot of what he's saying...

    Do I think Canelo a PED cheat? No

    Him & his team are just idiots, & they found small traces

    Besides that, im talking about the testing/suspension...

    Needs to be more stricter penalties. Harsher penalties... Like Paulie said, once a guy tests hot, he needs to be on a strict probation mandatory... With many random tests, & a second dirty be a multi year suspension...

    Im ok with Canelo suspension... A top athlete has to be aware with whats going on his body.

    Personally I would have a dirty test result in a 1 year ban, & a 2nd dirty test a 3 year ban...

    6 month suspension is not much

    Look at Ortiz, who had really no punishment

    Same with Povetkin
     
  2. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Instead of a six month ban for testing positive, i'd prefer to seeing something more innovative.

    Why?

    There's often a guy who loses just as much, if not more, than the guy who gets caught.
    It isn't a 'victimless crime'.

    A 12 month, weekly/fortnitely test by Vada, financed 100% from the cheat (Flights, accomodation etc).......

    Then should the individual be caught again, whether in the 12 month period or after, an instant 2 year ban.
     
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  3. JeremyCorbyn

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    6 months is a joke. What kind of deterrent is that?

    I would actually be a lot, lot harsher on cheats than Paulie suggests.

    There is a soccer player recently, called Bradley Wood, plays for a small club (Lincoln City), anyway he bet on himself that he'd get a yellow card in two separate matches, the bookmakers noticed the suspicious betting patterns and flagged it up, he has just been found guilty and banned for 6 years! Bear in mind this guy hadn't thrown a match, he wasn't doping, he didn't hurt anyone.

    So if they can give this guy a 6 year ban, why can't we be at least as harsh on people who take drugs and cheat their opponents out of glory and money, and rob the fans of a fair contest?

    I don't understand why we only give them a slap on the wrist. There has to be a deterrent, you have to know if you get caught taking drugs your career is over, finished, kaput. No second chances. Otherwise, what's the point? Especially in a sport like boxing where people can get hurt.

    And Canelo, btw, is by no means the only one.
     
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  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    If you don't think Canelo cheated purposefully then well... I don't know what to say. He looks guilty as hell to anyone not a fan.

    I'm actually surprised this punishment is as harsh as it is.
     
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  5. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    The answer is simple; TPTB don’t want to stop doping. There’s more money in the disease than the cure. TPTB are only interested in anti doping controversy, not anti doping itself.
    Gambling, however, is something that needs to be dealt with swiftly and forcefully.
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes and six months is just the normal lay off period between fights for this guy anyway
     
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  7. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maria Sharapova got ban 2 years after she got caught doping so Canelo should be banned at least 2 years or so too.
     
  8. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Combat sports should hold the most severe punishments for drug cheats.

    In football, US football, Basketball etc.....

    'Enhancing your performance' doesn't put your opponent at huge health risks.
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what Canelo defenders don't understand. As it is Canelos responsibility know what' going into his body he is to be held accountable for the consequences. However, if it was meat contamination then stricter punishments would help absolve him in the eyes of fans. The title of PED cheat hangs over a fighters career forever because nobody can tell if they are still on or off them after the fact. If Canelo went under strict testing with a ban that meant something and then came back just as good as he was before then more people would be willing to believe meat contamination.
     
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  10. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Remember "Canelo passed a 3rd test".....

    That means he failed 2.
     
  11. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    6 months is a time out, not a punishment fitting a doper failing two tests.
     
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  12. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That Mexican cheat is guilty as hell and corrupted as Mafia.
    He should be banned for life. :fusmile
     
  13. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Fluid the IV is great
    Roid Jones his hero
    Clenelo just as bad butchers working for him





    But Manny is a blatant drug cheat
    Gtfoh Pauline you got Egg on your chin
    Eggington seen to that
     
  14. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Clenelo Pedvarez is a PED cheat in perfect completion. You can not deny that, even if you are a fan of his boxing personality/style/abilities. He is doing this for years now, utter bs trash talk about some ****ing meat is disgusting, he has no balls in his pants, disgusting piece of cheating ****.

    The six-month suspension is a bad joke.

    Paulie is absolutely right. He should be on the radar right now, giving a sample/test every week for about two years or even more. He can fight after six months but getting caught a second time he receives a second ban, this time more drastically.
     
  15. Dfaulds

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    Should have copped a two year ban. Now he gets to recuperate from his injury and get training again in time for September... Not exactly a punishment. But he is one of the top money makers in the sport.... Can't ban him for too long.

    It's like Floyd's pathetic 2 month jail time for domestic battery. Can't keep the cash cow out to long....