If these revenue streams are already in place, and it’s something Hearn cannot do himself, then I guess they’d take the offer, dropping their ‘A’ side status. However, based on what most are saying or predicting, it’s just the usual revenue streams that would be available to Hearn and Matchroom, except it’s Wilder and co that want to take control, generating it. Hearn’s unlikely to go for that, as he can simply raise the capital himself, using the exact same streams. The only difference being that he would be in control; date, location, rematch clause (why team Wilder wouldn’t want that for either side is beyond me). Of course Hearn wouldn’t give Joshua a guaranteed purse, he would give him a better split.
Then Hearn needs to guarantee Wilder much more than $12.5mn flat if he wants to stage the fight doesn't he. Otherwise, he's robbing his man of a $50mn+ pay day purely because of his own ego.
Agreed. Wilder has offered 50-50 with a $50mn guarantee, which means they value the fight at $100mn+ and are willing to bet on it. Now it's time for Hearn to either agree and pay Wilder a ton more, or disagree and rob them blind.
It’s a percentage that needs to be offered. Let’s not forget that the revenue streams are likely no different to what Hearn will be looking at. Is he really going to give up control of this fight? It’s not egos. The money will be generated primarily through his fighter; pretty much the same money will be raised, regardless of who promotes it. Hearn will want to dictate. Anybody in his position would. Put it this way, if I can make 100 million through MY business and give you, say 30 million, while keeping full control, but then you can make 100 million through MY business, but you want 50%, but guarantee me 70 million, but I get no control, which one do you think I’m going to pick? All the offer has done is said to Hearn, this fight makes more than you’re claiming.
You're not right about revenue streams at all. Al will put on the fight in Vegas, during US prime time for boxing. The revenue streams will be dramatically different, and IMO higher, than if Hearn puts it on in the UK.
Come on Sephiroth you’re not daft,all this inc Hearns offer is just BS to sell the fight,we saw the exact same blueprint with GGG and Canelo for those who care to remember,one day Canelos ducking,next day GGg turns down 15mill and it was all just BS stalling tactics and both knew when theyed fight. I’m telling you now this is the same,nothing will come of this offer and when it’s done it’ll happen behind closed doors as there’s no way it won’t happen.
Well aside from the gates they are the same streams, just in different amounts. Fight in US at prime time and the majority of earnings has to come from US sources. It will hit UK ppv but they probably figure the more committed fans in the UK will lessen the hit. The interesting aspect is what's led to them this conclusion: They will know the US market more than anyone. Have they seen data that suggests this fight will break through and capture the imagination of the casual US market and therefore do massive US PPV? That's the only way I can see that guarantee stacking up. Maybe they have casino buy in too.
Again, it’s still an avenue that Hearn can take. I.e it’s not unique to Wilder and Co promoting the fight. Unless, as someone has mentioned, they have a unique position in the market that allows them better opportunities to generate more money if they promote. There are a couple of things that make me doubt the legitimacy of this offer though; the deadline, no rematch clause, and Wilder sending through the offer, before making it public.
Why can't this not be bluffing but the usual back and forth during any major business transaction? To believe that Wilder and his team (Al Haymon) can't raise $50 million for the fight is stupidity. This will go back and forth until the deal is eventually made.
Haymon stepped in and took Hearn's balls with that offer. Hearn looked out of his depth even talking about that kind of money.
-#1 Las Vegas casinos -#2 Showtime/CBS -#3 sponsors -#4 gate Hearn is over his head in this kind of mega event. . . .maybe he will watch and learn and apply the knowledge for future events.
