David Haye what years was he truly at his peak?!

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  1. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Almost all of us kept basing this version of Haye on his performance against Chisora and Wlad six, and seven years ago. I admit I truly do feel very foolish now. I do realise boxers decline with age, but this did seem such a dramatic fall from is performances before.

    I guess six years really is a very very long time. Makes you worry about growing old yourself!

    When do you think Haye was at his best? At cruserweight? At cruserweight and to the Chisora fight? What do you think?
     
  2. CutThroatFade

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    He was at his peak when he iced Enzo at CW. IMO he was at his HW peak when he destroyed Chisora - who else has done that to him since? But he was at his true fighting peak as a CW. If there was a 210lb weight division that would have been ideal.

    He’s an all time great in my book.
     
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  3. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His peak win and best career win was at CW over Jean Marc Mormeck.

    I think that was the best possible David Haye there has ever been

    He then stepped up to the HW after icing Enzo who has always been very Chinny, when facing Monte Barrett.

    The following two fights could also be called within the peak.
     
  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He fell short from achieving his maximum for a few reasons

    Undersized at HW

    his competition at HW was a Superheavyweight. If it was people like Ruiz etc who were belt holders he would have cleaned up. Instead it was a peak Wladimir Klitschko.

    too injury prone - bulked up and did too many explosive exercises with massive weights to retain mass and twitch muscle memory. Counterproductive in a small frame like his. Sub 210 was his ideal weight.

    Bad lifestyle choices meants he drained his finances so he came back purely for the money.

    His power meant he never had to learn boxing fundamentals. Always had a stalker and strike mentality. Bellew exploited it wonderfully.

    Only guy other than Holyfield to win a title at CW and HW though so that gives him a high ranking and deservedly so.
     
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  6. CutThroatFade

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    Let’s not forget that’s Adam Booth was PERFECT for Haye. As soon as he left Booth, you pretty much knew deep down he would never be the same.
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes, he was at his peak at cruiserweight and his peak when he fought Chisora which was impressive. His fake win against Valouev was just that, fake, Don King owned him then, split decision, all Haye did was run like hell and threw hardly any punches at all. Jim Watt said before the decision that there was no way Haye could win a decision without thrown any punches! He did the same against Vlad, when he hurt his toe.................
     
  8. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I heard Booth walked out on him, because he was getting beaten on in sparring.
     
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  9. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea what happened with him and Booth anyone know?
     
  10. CutThroatFade

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    I always assumed it was about money but both haven’t talked about it and I doubt they ever will.

    Clearly it was bitter because Booth always refers to him as “Haye” in interviews and never as “David”. Says it all.
     
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  11. Faceplant

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    His peak was somewhere between going life and death with the great Fragomeni at cruiserweight, and throwing 8 punches a round against the great Valuev.
     
  12. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Enzo Macc years, the fight that he walked home to Bermondsey from the O2 from with the belt over his shoulder. Can't get much better than that.
     
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  13. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson Fury said in a interview after Haye pulled out of the second fight, that Booth walked out on Haye, because he was getting beaten on by lessor sparring partners. Booth walked out, because he wanted Haye to give it up, but he refused, and Booth did not want anything to do with Haye fighting again.
     
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  14. 305th

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    Interesting, as Booth seems to be a stand up bloke.
     
  15. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Haye was already huffing and puffing heavy during the Chisora fight. I remember him looking rusty in that one. I think he had a 12 month layoff or something close to it.
    And then he didn't fight for another 3 years.