Should Lomachenko go to Baltimore and fight Tank Davis?

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  1. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Active Member Full Member

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    Davis would have a functional weight advantage. Loma has a big skill advantage. Great fight.

    I didn't know Baltimore was that bad. Sounds like Oakland (worse than Compton) and Detroit had a baby.
     
  2. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    You know belts don't mean **** today. If there was one belt per weight class like back in the day, Tank would just be a top five contender. I'd rather see Berchelt fight Lomachenko. Or Berchelt fight Tank.
     
  3. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They mean the world to the fighters. I could care less about fans opinions of titles. I'm fine with any two of those three mixing it up.

    But as it stands, Tank is obligated to face the best of the division now. If he isn't willing, he can stop calling himself a 'champ' and drop the belt and continue to hone his skills w/ lesser opposition
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Man Baltimore has about 4 times the murder rate of Oakland. And Oakland is barely a smaller city.

    Baltimore despite barely crossing 500,000 residents had more murders than LA and New York last year.

    It is a ****ing war zone. I ask anybody to drive the streets of West Baltimore. There is nothing in the country like it. Its savage.
     
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  5. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I’d be scared for Loma’s life if/when he beats Davis in Baltimore. The homicide rate in that city is crazy.
     
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  6. DoubleJ

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    That's bad. Is it like Oakland and LA where **** keeps getting worse but the same people/party keeps getting elected over and over again?
     
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    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've never been to Baltimore, but i spent more time in Gary, Indiana growing up than anybody ought to have. Same murder rates, but Gary usually never pops up on lists like that since it's too small for the cutoff now. The downfall was like Detroit before Detroit.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's not like it's getting worse. It's always bad. But status quo remains.
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Baltimore is unique because some smaller cities which have less 100,000 people may have similar homicide rates. But Baltimore is a vast major city.
     
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  10. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jerk store called, they're out of YOU!!

    ;)
     
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  11. Pat M

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    We used to go to the Upton Gym on Pennsylvania Ave. in West Baltimore every year for their big amateur show. It was one of the best amateur shows we went to and all of the fighters loved to go there. The last time we were there was for Tank's last amateur fight, huge crowd, good atmosphere. The people from the neighborhood would line the sidewalk before fight time to get into the fights. The fighters would walk to the ring on a raised platform through smoke, then face off before the fight. With the big crowd and noise, the fighters felt like they were fighting a main event.

    Calvin Ford, Mack Allison, Tank, and Malik Hawkins, were all there at the time.
     
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  12. Thread Stealer

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    St. Louis is violent as hell too. Then you go across the bridge to East St. Louis and that’s the most violent small town in America.

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    You have all these cities in America where crime rate has dropped significantly (LA, NY, Fort Worth, Dallas, Miami, Atlanta, etc...)....yet Baltimore’s murder rate is higher than its ever been. Sad.

    Yep...and it’s cool that the Cutty character is based off Tank’s trainer, Calvin Ford (and named Dennis Wise after a real hitman).

    Also, Mack Lewis was in The Wire when Lester goes to his gym to get the poster of Avon. Most of the characters in the show were inspired or named after real life figures, so it’s kind of cool to see the boxing connections as well.

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    Reggie Gross got knocked out by Mike Tyson. Gross is doing life in prison, one of the killings he did was along with Donnie Andrews, who played one of Butchie’s guys and was a real life stickup man like Omar.
     
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  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good post. Baltimore's homicide rate is almost as high as St. Louis despite having almost twice as many residents. I don't think St. Louis is one of the 50 biggest cities in America. It's not a major U.S. city. Baltimore is the 30th most populous city in America. Both are in bad situations, but St. Louis is a small town compared to Baltimore.
     
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  15. str1

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    Floyd already said the fight ain't happening.

    He must of kissed and made up with Tank because he changed his tune again and went back to the old ducking tunes.
     
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