do you think joe calzaghes boxing style would be good to emulate?

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  1. hotshot

    hotshot New Member Full Member

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    if you had a high workrate?
     
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    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Slapping style?
     
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  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    this guy is training for it

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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you'd need elite stamina the right ref and the right opponents but sure it could get you 46-0 that way.

    to be fair, any of his smw british world class contemporaries would have got 46-0 against at least 44 of his opponents.
     
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    One would have to be insanely talented to emulate that style. The speed, endurance, reflexes, ring IQ... good luck emulating that! 46-0
     
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    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Absolutely. Judges love flashy high volume slappers. It’s their favorite style.
     
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    'Zaghe's style is not really something you can 'emulate' exactly, its more the sort of style which you kind of 'fall into' after finding out trying to box normally doesn't work for you. If you have a good chin and stamina it might one day occur to you in the ring that you can just slap and outwork your opponent into submission or a points win, and then through experience learn all the tricks of the slappy trade from there.
     
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    The responses are perfect. Horrible style to emulate but it worked in the talent wasteland of the 168 pound division of his era, or at least the Veit level opposition he typically faced.

    It did work against a very solid Kessler and a faded, but OK version of Hopkins, though, so it wasn't that bad.
     
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    Calslappy didnt face the best in and around 168lb. His resume is pretty poor and he spent too long having "British world title fights".

    However a high output slappy style is judge friendly, and it also allows you to get some British stoppages.

    The worst British stoppage I saw him in was against Manfredo Junior. Go to 7 minutes to see Manfredo Jr stopped on his feet bemused, after Calslappy slaps his gloves 20 times and the obese referee steps in and waves it off.

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    this might be one of the ones where joe lands on the ref, and the ref doesnt notice the blow. Joe the power puncher myth right there.


    but he did fight the best at 168 on one occasion, when they guy was injured.
     
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    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Mock slapping all you want, but guess what, when you slap your opponent 850 times a round and they land like 4 shots. You win, they lose, and there's no debating that.

    It actually pains me to see the shocking level of ignorance when it comes to Calzaghe and his detractors. The fact they they have such a hard time comprehending the true elite skill level he was operating on, pretty much reveals either they're being blinded by their hatred, or they have no idea what they're watching, and don't know **** about boxing.
     
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    Lomachenko gets away with it.
     
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    Very hard style the emulate. For one thing he had very quick hands, his movement was superb, had an iron chin that was quite often tested and his stamina was insane. He used to go for long hill runs up and down the valleys of Newbridge, hill runs are brutal, not many fighters would choose to do such hard road work to build their stamina.

    I don't think it's ever great to emulate a fighters style it's better to find your own style that takes advantage of your own personal strengths as a boxer.
     
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    Here's what one of his former opponents Nick Manners had to say about Joe's fitness and stamina after he'd been invited up to Newbridge to spar with Joe to help hmi prepare for the Eubank fight.

    ''I was a fit lad and always aimed to be the fittest in the gym along with my brother Colin (former middleweight professional). I used to be a handy runner and never had any trouble with stamina or speed, but with Joe he used to run up these massive Welsh hills and keep an incredible pace. One day I was flagging behind totally exhausted and he motioned to wait for me. I said ''Joe get along I'm fine, you're training for a world title fight I don't want to slow you down.'' He sped off and this little bus drove past: it came past regularly when we were up in those hills, we used to wave when they bleeped their horns. I was so spent I flagged it down and hitched a ride, Joe was still puffing and panting up the steep hill and I just waved to him as the bus passed''


    ''Our stablemate Nathan Cleverly and I normally spar with Joe in the build-up to his fights. Joe's stamina and work-rate is so intense that Nathan and I share sparring with him, I do two rounds then Nathan does two. That's tiring enough but poor Nathan is having to do it all at the moment. I don't envy him as Joe is in fantastic shape."

    --Bradley Price

    Cleverly had a great engine himself


    And here's what Charles Brewer had to say about facing Joe.

    ''I dished out a lot more punishment than I ever took during my career, but I'd have to say the toughest and most exciting fight I ever had was with Joe Calzaghe,'' Brewer said.

    ''Joe was not a one-punch KO kind of guy, but he overwhelmed guys; he had those ridiculous combinations! And I deviated from my game-plan that night in Wales, and we just warred; we went two-to-toe for 12-rounds. It was a battle of heart and guts. Joe was just a great technical, mentally draining, puncher''
     
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    Good Super Joe documentary here.

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