Who beats Larry Holmes of the Norton Fight?

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  1. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Your boys frazier and liston are a nightmare for holmes
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    I'm in the camp that Holmes went from underrated mid reign to a bit overrated at present. Having said that i have him well inside the top 10 and he gets as high as 4 or 5.

    Joe Louis - I'd favor Joe possibly by stoppage. His right hand counters would be the key.

    Mike Tyson - Tyson's style was forged toward beating Holmes and the likes of Holmes. I go to and fro on this one at times but i now solidly lean toward Tyson stopping Larry in 8 or less. His style and weaponry is perhaps better geared than anyone's for the task. Larry has too much heart to be content to survive. He'd go balls to the wall in an attempt to win.

    Muhammad Ali - I'd favor the Ali just before exile to beat Holmes by comfortable decision.

    Joe Frazier - I'd mildly favor Joe to beat Larry with both possibly hitting the deck at some point.

    Lennox Lewis - Lewis would be even's or the mildest of favorites here for me.

    Roughly even's - Foreman, Liston.

    Live underdogs - Norton, Holyfield, Marciano.
     
  3. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime Ali uses his considerable foot speed and handspeed advantage to box around Holmes for a comprehensive UD.

    Prime Tyson shoots a right hand over Larry's low left to lay him out and then batter him to a tko defeat around the 11th round.
     
  4. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Get out of Larry's a$$.
     
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    I agree with foreman being even but liston? Noway . liston beats holmes sure
     
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    Wlad, Vitali, Lennox, Tyson...
     
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Did I ####### ask you?
    It's my opinion and I stick by it.
     
  8. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Either its a stylistic disadvantage, or someone could argue he looked quite beatable that night.
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn’t Larry win that fight with a biceps tear?
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    My picks

    Joe Louis
    Mike Tyson
    Lennox Lewis
    Muhammad Ali
    Joe Frazier
    Wladimir Klitschko

    Possibilities: Marciano, Liston, Foreman, Vitali
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Maybe but there's no "sure".
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    Allegedly.
     
  13. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    A great inside fighter like Tyson or Marciano. Bowe as big as he was, was great on the inside. A great example IMO is the Holmes-Witherspoon fight, especially this round 9. Showcases Larry's weakness(inside fighting) and strength (will power) he wouldn't go down. If Witherspoon had Shavers power, Holmes would weather that, like he did Ernie.
    Note when Holmes is inside...he tries to extend his jab to create space, when he doesn't have it...
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    As far as the Norton fight, since I've read few-- if any times of Holmes crying 'injury', I have no reason to believe he was making excuses when he stated he injured his left arm about two weeks before the fight.
    Totally healed, he would have beaten Norton a wee-bit easier. Prime Holmes vs Prime Tyson-- He drops Larry like Shavers did, only he has the killer instinct and timing,while Shavers was just a big puncher with a very questionable chin.
     
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    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    My bad, you beat me to it. I give him the benefit of the doubt since he doesn't have a record of making excuses.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    He actually came up with quite a few excuses after poor performances. Had a cold, overtrained etc. These are fights he actually won.