the way to detect who is a bigger man than his weight suggests

What am I changing about your words?

 

I've read your posts and thought I was honestly responding to them. I don't like twisting people's words so I was interested in knowing what I misrepresented about your argument. But fine, if that's your tack.

 

This article on boxers’ wrist size is interesting and on point.

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Yes if u have very thin skinny wrists and ankles with a lanky frame its gonna be hard to add weight even if youre tall and muscular. They do better at lower weight classes and if theyre very tall they make better basketball players or receivers in football. As boxers they tend to either be stick and move types or theyre more technical and masters of range control. (Ectomorph).

The opposite is also true for wide frame david tua type endomorph guys. If they have huge bulging ankles and thick wrists they can put on muscle more easy than others but they also tend to gain fat easily too. A lot of powerlifters and linemen are this body type and you rarely see them in the lower weight classes, usually no lower than welterweight or middleweight.

Then theres the mesomorphs who are in between the two extremes and have the broad shoulders and big muscles but they also have slightly longer arms and legs. They tend to be the most gifted and athletic with both speed and explosive power.

Really this isnt that complicated. It only takes a few minutes sizing a guy up and looking at obvious signs like their neck, shoulder width, ankles, wrists, waistline, etc to see what their natural weight range should be.

Of course there are exceptions not everyone fits perfectly to each description. Some guys are a blend of ectomorph and mesomorph traits while others are a blend of meso and endo with very little fat and very tall with long arms and legs but incredibly powerful (like hapfthor the mountain).

 

Fully developed? He wasn't even Five-foot-two, yet!

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I think Duran is bigger naturally. If you look at them, he handled 147 and above much better than Chavez. Chavez could not have done what Duran did and fought Barkley or Hagler.. and win at 154.. I don't think Chavez handled 147 and in a weaker era.

 

Of course he handled 147 better than Chavez. He was a better fighter. There is no evidence to your comment. None whatsoever. Your opinion is invalid here because it contradicts actual facts. According to you, Duran is naturally bigger because he handled 147 and above better? Ya, he got fat. Besides I don't remember Chavez ever fighting above 147- maybe when he fought Oscar as I don't remember- because he never got fat like Duran did. Duran and Chavez had identical physical dimensions in their respective primes. Identical. Duran is "not bigger naturally" lol, unless of course you're considering fat. Look at the tale of the tape and educate yourself. Look at Duran above 147 as he had no muscle tone whatsoever. None. He was fleshy at 154 and fat at 160 and above. The eyes don't lie. Nor does the tale of the tape. That's just simple reality.

 

Is Pacquiao big framed for his height? Not really. Is Tua big framed for his height? Absolutely.

Not sure what any of that proves, really.

 

good point.
first guy would be someone like max baer, and the second guy someone like rocky marciano.

 

Numbers don't lie. Period. Do you have proof of this despite the numbers- you know, the actual facts?