The welterweight trio, how do you rank em?

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  1. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spence,Crawford,Thurman
     
  2. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both Thurman (healthy) and Crawford UD Spence. Crawford SDs Thurman, barely.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Accomplishments at WW.

    Crawford - Horn
    Thurman - Garcia, Porter, Guerrero, Chaves, Collazo, Karass, Bundu, Diaz, Zaveck, Quintana
    Spence - Brook, Peterson, Algieri, Bundu, Van Heerden, Lo Greco


    I see absolutely nothing wrong with my rankings.
     
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  4. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Spence gon tear Crawford's ass up. Crawdaddy's my boy but he ain't ready for Spence. He thinks he is but Spence is gonna put it on him like he ain't never had it put on him.
     
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  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    This, Crawfords butt is going to get worked on. Spence can dish it out better than any other man Crawfish has encountered. Crawford cant take that pounding.
     
  6. ATG22

    ATG22 Active Member Full Member

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    Right now, I’d say:
    Spence
    Crawford
    Thurman


    A year from now?
    Thurman
    Spence
    Crawford
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Thurman (if he ever comes out of retirement)
    Spence
    Porter
    Crawford and Garcia about the same level, Garcia is the only name fighter Crawford has a chance against at 147 and that's not a sure thing, even if Danny is way over the hill...................
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    P4P:
    Crawford
    Thurman
    Spence

    WW:
    Thurman
    Spence
    Crawford

    H2H:
    Spence
    Crawford
    Thurman
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Mark my words, Thurman's best days and most relevant results are behind him.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Both Crawford and Spence Jr are superior to Thurman. I personally doubt Thurman will fight again. Danny Garcia has retired him.
     
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  11. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Accomplishments at WW:

    Thurman
    Spence Jr
    Crawford

    Prediction as to current form:

    Spence Jr
    Crawford
    Thurman

    Unfortunately I think Thurman's lost his fire, if he ever got it back he could mix with or even beat the other two.
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I do think he fights again for sure. However, I think people are going to be stunned by what the damage of inactivity, age, and major injury is going to do to him. I don't see him scoring more than one if any more wins of the quality of his Garcia and Porter victories. Shame too, as I was cool with Thurman... That said, Thurman does rank higher at 147 than the other two at the moment based on accomplishment within the division.
     
  13. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let's get a WBSS at 147 and sort this mess out, sort out these debates.
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    1. Manny - wins over JMM, Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, Bradley, Vargas, Clottey etc. and most people had him beating Jeffrey Horn which is an absolutely superb win especially given Manny's 38 years old and way, way, way past his best, and Horn was allowed to bring 5 weapons into the ring as opposed to the legal 2, and he did it over in Horn's backyard too where everything was heavily weighted in Horn's favour and against him. For me, Horn is Manny's best ever win.



    Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao

    Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn

    Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao

    Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn

    Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn

    Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won

    Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114

    Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won

    Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won

    Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won

    Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao

    Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114

    Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won

    Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao

    Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine) – Pacquiao won

    Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Ryan Songalia (Ring Magazine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao

    Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao

    Tom Gray‏ (Ring Magazine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”

    Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”

    Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won

    Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)

    Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

    Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao

    Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

    Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

    Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)

    Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!

    Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao

    Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

    T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)

    Salvador Rodriguez‏ (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao

    Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”

    Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won

    Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao

    Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao

    Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao

    Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”

    Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”

    ******* – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao

    Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won

    Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao

    Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao

    Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed

    Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114

    Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”

    Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114

    Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)

    Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)

    Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn

    Adam Abramowitz‏ (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao

    Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”

    Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)

    Patrick Connor‏ (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won

    Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao

    Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed

    Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)

    Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won


    55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw


    So

    1. Manny
    2. Khan 2.0
    3. One Time (I'd have Keithy at #2 if he hadn't been inactive)

    4. Spence
    5. Crawype
     
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  15. Brujo

    Brujo Member Full Member

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    Crawford

    Spence
    Thurman


    Flip-flop Thurman and Spence if Thurman was an active fighter.