Earnie Shaver's V These recent heavyweight s ?

Earnie would win some and he would lose some. It need not be the ones people would think he would win or lose either.

 

kidding of course. and that's probably true thomas1

 

If this is the peak shavers who improved his stamina and had spectacular kos over norton, roy williams and gave ali and holmes hell...

Peter gets stopped. Yes he has a weight advantage but he was a sloppy boxer with poor defense and lost heart against vitali where he himself asked the ref to stop it. It would be exciting for about 5 rounds or so and then earnie just lands too many bombs and drops the nigerian at some point in an ugly bar brawl. Shavers himself probably goes down at some point too, and both would be out of breath.

Arrealas bum ass is destroyed in round 3. He wasnt even B level at his best and lost to mediocre stiverne and destroyed by wilder.

Havent seen any sultan fights.

Briggs survives a scary early knockdown and weathers the storm, showing incredible heart and hurting shavers with his own respectable power. Brigg's size, chin, and wider variety of punches gets him the stoppage win in the 9th.

Haye is a fraud who wants to be famous more than he wants to be champion. Shavers puts him in his place with a brutal bomb in the 2nd and haye blames a random injury no one knew about.

Similar to briggs, brewstes shows incredible heart and determination in a thrilling war similar to his first klitschko fight.

 

Y do people like areolas? I think he was, well, I wouldn't say a bum, I wouldn't call any boxer that, I just never saw much in him

 

But then you're comparing a peak Shavers to an overweight and somewhat faded Peter. Peter's best performance came in second Toney fight, so it's only fair to rank him on that performance. I honestly think that version of Peter batters Shavers. His jab alone was like a ramrod, and he'd majorly tightened up his punches and improved his overall offensive capabilities. It was the only fight in Toney's HW career where he genuinely looked like he could have been stopped.

You should. He was a very decent little fighter.

 

I think at best, Earnie wins 2 of the fights. Arreola might be the easiest for him to pull out. After that, it's a landmine. And Shavers is not the type to make it through minefields. The 4 bouts Earnie loses would be by ko with maybe 2 of those 4 being the brutal variety. Tough enough sport without having to trudge on after 2 brutal ko's

 

Toney was 38 and at the end of his meaningful Boxing career; three-quarters of which had been spent sub-200lbs.

If that's what it took for Peter to look his best then so be it. But, for all of Shavers' flaws, I think his movement and non-stop attack would have had Peter confused and prevented him from having his little breathers in between sporadic moments of action. None of this bodes well for Peter.

 

Peters best performance is a fat old james toney who was never a true heavyweight? Lol.

 

Well, there's also this.

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David haye would beat the living crap of shavers

 

You are correct.
That era was a very good/ great one and yet I agree exaggerated. What made very good seem great was that the big players Met in their prime unlike in the 90's when they didn't.
I get slated on hear for saying Foreman is / was overrated but it's true.
Shavers was a man who fought and won often, but generally came up short at elite level.

 

Peter took about a dozen flush right hands from a prime Wlad and a bunch of flush hooks and uppercuts to boot. His chin was rock solid.

Of course any chin can crack if it's hit hard enough and often enough, but Shavers isn't going to just bomb Peter out the way he did Norton or Ellis, and that gives Peter the opportunity to land his own shots on Shavers. How well does he react in turn?

 

He lost...

Not very convincing. At best you can argue his chin would allow him to survive shavers best bombs since wlad couldnt ko him but nearly any b level boxer could make the sloppy nigerian look bad. Shavers could actually outbox him.

Shavers kod 3 belt holders (norton, ellis, bugner) and gave hall of famers ali and holmes nightmares (no pun intended). He also stopped defensive wizard and contender jimmy young and was the only man to ever ko 6'5 roy williams in a thrilling war.

Peters best peformances are...a decision loss to wladmir and close controversial split wins over a fat former middle weight james toney. Theyre not on the same level. Peters severe lack of defense and huge weight would actually be a disadvantage and hed essentially become a big target fo a big puncher! And its not out of the question shavers could get a stoppage either as peter had been koed 4x.

Dont get me wrong me, peters nonstop aggression and powerful thudding volume shots means he obviously has a pumchers chance, but i definitrl dont favor him even in a shootout. T

 

Literally no one brought up foreman and you chose to point out how hes overrated but youre not a hater? Lol.

You talk about how the era was exaggerated and immediately bring up foreman but fail to criticize any other boxer by name lmao. This thread has absolutely nothing to do with him!

 

Norton was 36 and past his prime

Ellis was long past his best days at age 33 and would lose 5 of his next 6 fights

Bunger was 32 coming off a 1 fight in 5 years layoff

Shavers lost to a version of Ali that couldn’t beat Leon Spinks

Holmes won 22 out of the 23 rounds they fought

He was knocked out in 1 round by alcoholic quarry

Lost to 20-24 bob stalling

Knocked out by Ron Standee

Really not that impressive