Pacquiao Was 145 Yesterday While Matthysse Was 149...

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  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think you are confused lol. That means he's fighting above his ideal weight class.
     
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  2. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah 2 pounds is nothing. Matthysse is on target. He could actually be bigger.

    Pacquiao is expected as he isn't a real welterweight.
     
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  3. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    Lucas is short and a come forward fighter this is going to be a fun scrap
     
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  4. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    You are literally the only person on the face of the planet who considers Manny Pacquiao to be a true welterweight.
     
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  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    He's been competing at welterweight almost exclusively for like a decade now. If that doesn't make one a true welterweight, what does?
     
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  7. Flamazide

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    ...The weight you show up at?
     
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  8. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    It just means that Pacquiao competes at welterweight. You can't be a true welterweight and be outsized by some lightweights, most junior welterweights, and every welterweight.
     
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  9. Badbot

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    True in the sense that Manny actually weights the same as is his weight class.
    Thurman was 162 when fighting Guerrero. Thats two weight classes above what he weighed in at.
     
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  10. icarus1

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    pac is a true junior welter who campaigned at welter for so long because it is where the challenge was. but it doesn't mean he is a true welter weight. boxers true weight is where their natural(physical) best fighting weight is. not bulking up or slimming down just to get an opponent. some boxers are just gifted in their ability to fight in various weights especially those who have good speed and punching power.
     
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  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Isn't that just another way of saying "Pac's a welterweight"?

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  12. Flamazide

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    No because he isn't at the target weight for it in the ring and it isn't his ideal weight. That's like saying the MMA fighter Anthony "Rumble" Johnson was a Welterweight when he fought there by draining himself to ****. You know exactly what people mean when they are discussing weight. When you are undersized by literally every single person in that weight class that is not your real weightclass. You fight there, but you body is not that of a Welterweight which is what we're discussing.
     
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  13. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [UOTE="Badbot, post: 19286291, member: 68595"]Again, Manny could make the weight during the same day weigh in era.
    How many other welterweight could do that?
    When was the last time Manny said he had to eat to make 147? 2012?[/QUOTE]
    Many weights 145 pounds almost every time he fights at the WW Division.
     
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  14. Manu Vatuvei

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    Pacquiao is 2lbs heavier than Jamie McDonnell was for his most recent fight at 118

    118

    Think about that
     
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  15. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Matthysse is a natural 140 pounder.


    Manny Pacquiao is a natural 135 pounder.



    MAtthysse has next level power for 140/147 so Manny better be extra cautious
     
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