Pacquiao TKOs Danny, Beats Thurman, Loses To Porter, Gets KO'd By Spence And Craw...

Kid, it was 3 mins combined with the shot thrown that initiated the hug AND the ref break up

The hugging itself was probably 15 seconds combined throughout 12 rounds.

How this all needs to be explained to you shows your level of knowledge, or lack thereof

 

He has a better gas tank, is quicker, has better defense than Thurman, and Thurman leaves his chin open most of the time. They are also similar in size, Thurman is only 5'7

 

This. PAC is slow as molasses now. Thurman ends him early now. Beating Lucas didn't prove anything, since I never thought much of Lucas even in his prime.

 

You are actually pretty dense. 3min vid of hugging compilation is like 3min vid of power shots, it’s a lot. Hugging is a disruption to the action for when the other is about to initiate it. If you see 3-4 openings in a round andnyoire about to commit, and everytime the other person bends below the knee and hugs, that’s enough to cause a stinker.

Show me 1 occasion where pac initiates the action and instead of running, bending below the belt or hugging (the latter 2 being illegal so therefore should be -1 point the same as any other illegal move), floyd actually engages?

The guy ran and hugged all night everytime action was actually initiated.

Go watch the round and count how many times pac tried to close the gap and the ratio of how many times floyd bent over illegally and hugged his way out of it. It’s ridiculous.

Papa Floyd had to ask him why he’s fighting scared

 

Thurman and Lucas hit him with their best punch and didn't go anywhere.

 

Thurman only just slightly better than DSG, and DSG only slightly better than Matthysse. All B level fighters. Maybe Matthysse B-, DSG B and Thurman B+.

Only Crawford(A) and Spence(A) stands out. Brooks(A-) is also potentially in that mix.

Guys like Cotto, JMM prime are also A level fighters. I leave A+ ratings to undisputable ATGs, both in accomplishments and using the eye test, i.e prime mosley, duran, RJJ, floyd, pac, tyson, ali, srl etc. All of those guys looked truely special at their peak. Crawford may be in that mix, time will tell.

 

This post is hilarious. Who in the world did Crawford beat at 147 for you to rate him so high? He took forever to get a stoppage on a scrub like Horn, who Thurman would've ran through in 2-3 rounds. Also, Garcia's win over Khan trumps any win that Crawford has so far. The Horn fight really exposed how overrated Crawford's power is.

Spence has potential, but he beat Brooks, who was damaged goods after getting destroyed by GGG. I need to see Spence against someone with a chin and power before I'm sold on him. If Thurman and DSG are B level fighters than Crawford and Spence are C+ level fighters, since they haven't done as much.

 

DSG was exposed by Matthysse and an old shot to pieces fat Morales. Khan was also boxing his ears off, he had to look at the canvas, then close his eyes, say his hail mary, and land that haymaker of a left hook on one of the most brittle chins in boxing.

Thurman just looks awkward as fk. He's not that fast, he don't hit that hard, he's not that skilled, but he does all those things well, better than average, he's a B student at everything, no A game in his game.

With Crawford, its damn obvious his speed is A level, his movement is much more refined and his skillset more diverse. Sure, accomplishments wise Thurman is better, but just going by the eye test.

Spence beat Brooks, pretty sure Brooks beats Thurman and DSG.

 

True... But they didn't land frequently. Herrera and PEDerson both nailed Danny with frequency and busted his face up badly. Pac would do a serious number on Danny.

 

those who think danny beats manny, go watch highlights of garcia vs rios, now take note of the shots that the warm corpse of brandon rios was landing on danny and imagine pac in there instead.

 

I think that Herrera and Peterson both won those fights but my contention is that Danny has a world class chin. He has taken some great shots and didn't fall.

 

So does Rios.

DSG has chin + crispy left hook and good timing.

But he's slow, and very limited.

 

No doubt. Danny's chin is legit. What I'm saying is that Herrera and Peterson are both featherfisted and had they turned up the heat before the second half of the fight. Danny may very well have been stopped.

Pacquiao's 10X the puncher of Herrera/Peterson in power, accuracy, and speed.

AND... Danny ducked Pacquiao for $4 million to lose to Thurman for $2 million.

 

We'll see soon if Pac actually believes he can keep winning. by rematching Horn and challenging for a title. I don't think he can win and at this stage, being competitive isn't enough. He'll get one more decent payday but he'll get ended if he fights a real threat.

 

No he doesn't! Pac looked old and slow vs an even slower, fat and shot to shredderings Lucas Mathysse. Pac was done years ago. No need to continue.