israel vazquez vs juan manuel lopez

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by warrior85, Jun 14, 2008.

  1. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2007
    Messages:
    11,865
    Likes Received:
    3
    who wins?

    personally i see vazquez winning this one
     
  2. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2007
    Messages:
    12,558
    Likes Received:
    6
    That's an insane fight since Vazquez would go for it and most probably would end up in the morgue... The reason there are matchmakers and managers is so that such fights never take place!
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2007
    Messages:
    79,438
    Likes Received:
    2,646
    imo if Vasquez still has the hunger, then he wins it.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2007
    Messages:
    41,814
    Likes Received:
    5
    assuming vazquez was not yet damaged in his wars with marquez, i would pick him over lopez. lopez stylistically has the advantage over vazquez but i cannot ignore vazquez' heart to win. other assets of vazquez are his vast experience and power though lopez really had an amazing display of power too in his de leon fight.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2007
    Messages:
    41,814
    Likes Received:
    5
    are you sure you are thinking of juan manuel lopez and not juan manuel marquez?
     
  6. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2007
    Messages:
    12,558
    Likes Received:
    6
    I'm sure of what I'm saying bro. Juanma hits Izzy the way he hit PDL and Vazquez keeps shaking it and going for it... And at the end of the fight ( even if it goes twelve which I very seriously doubt), there's another tragedy in boxing like Burgos... Actually, I did expect a tragedy in Hatton vs Mayweather but Thank Almighty Lord, Ricky lived to fight another day...
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2007
    Messages:
    41,814
    Likes Received:
    5

    loud and clear juanma fan. ;)

    i was also very impressed with his power knocking ponce de leon in just a round. i still cannot get out of my mind the way de leon's legs are shaking after getting hit by that right hook.
     
  8. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2007
    Messages:
    12,558
    Likes Received:
    6
    And we have to consider that Izzy has been in 3 huge fights and may want to turn this one into a a give and take contest once again... Juanma finds his mark with a str8 left and combines it with a horse kick from his right hooked arm and Izzy takes and comes back for more... That is very dangerous right now for Vazquez. He should have a long layoff and some easy fights from now on... And that's it. Vazquez is a great warrior and I want to see him enjoy life beyond and after boxing, I really do.
     
  9. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2008
    Messages:
    6,598
    Likes Received:
    2
    lopez is good but i think he's getting overrated, i mean c'mon we've only seen him less than a round in a championship level plus DPDL was not that very good to begin with, we need to see more of him to have him proven
     
  10. kartog

    kartog Agent Smith Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2006
    Messages:
    3,975
    Likes Received:
    84
    Doesn't have a good chin? Probably not cast-iron, but still more than good by any standards.
     
  11. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    16,487
    Likes Received:
    6
    Vasquez takes this one.
     
  12. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2008
    Messages:
    15,294
    Likes Received:
    6
    Unless he has been permanently damaged by the trilogy with Marquez then Vasquez takes this one.

    Aren't we getting a little carried away by JML's KO of Ponce de Robot.
     
  13. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2007
    Messages:
    27,148
    Likes Received:
    6
    I think Juan Ma would take this in a year or so basically because I DO think Izzy is permanently damaged. I don't see how he wouldn't be if you look at the fights he's been in...and if you take into account Freddie Roach saying that Izzy was slurring his words prior to the first fight with Rafa. I love Izzy to death but I think the time has come and gone for him.

    That said the Izzy Vasquez from round 12 of the 3rd fight destroys JuanMa in 5.
     
  14. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    21,873
    Likes Received:
    3
    Vasquez has been in too many wars and if this fight happens then it will show.

    Vasquez has heart but i'm sure that he's not skilled enough to handle Lopez.

    Larios x2
    Gonzales
    Marquez x3

    He's been stopped 3 of his 4 losses ...

    Juanma beats him ... in a passing of the torch fight ...
     
  15. africandawg

    africandawg Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007
    Messages:
    535
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'de like Israel to take a break----too many wars-----rather fight Steve Molitor -----let Lopez break some other noses if he can !!!!:smoke