Pavlik Looks Too Dangerous For Joe So They Are Ducking Him?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    those who voted yes will really look like morons if the fight comes off eventually
     
  2. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    I'm not ignorant of ****. THe fight with Pavlik would sell bigger. So whats he waiting for.
     
  3. sean

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    IMO a pavlik fight is possible.
    i dont know what is going on behind the scenes.

    pretty sure warren will want calzaghe`s next fight in the uk and maybe this could be a stumbling block.
     
  4. Hermit

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    If it isn't before Joe vacates his belts, it is a WHOLE different set of circumstances though. NEXT is important in this instance. Now you have the undisputed 168 champ vs the undisputed 160 champ. Will Arum still want this fight for Kelly if Joe has vacated? Will Arum offer the same money? The belts have a commericial value.
     
  5. o_money

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    Yeah honestly I'm getting kinda vindictive here because the fight hasn't been made and people are talking as though its not going to get made but i honestly don't see what Joe has to worry about with Pavlik, if Taylor can box a smart fight and take him the distance then provided he hasn't significantly dropped off since the Kessler fight Joe can certainly do that.
     
  6. WiltonRoots

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    I see them not fighting each other next as the path to a bigger payday in the future for both of them. Simple logic really, as someone said earlier Pavlik is "on the verge of becoming the next big thing". On the verge. Not quite there yet. I see the delay as being beneficial to both fighters as it means bigger bucks all round!

    Right now a fight with RJJ is a BIG payday, if you only have a couple of fights left you want to make your life after boxing as comfortable as possible. If he fought Pavlik now once everyone's taken their cut it he would have fought him for pocket change.

    The thing to remember as well is a hard punching middleweight may find his punches are ineffective against super middles or in this case a light heavy, as an example Nigel Benn was knocking people over left, right and centre at middle, but against bigger guys his nights got longer.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Nobody does, it just comforts a lot of people here to believe that the British guy is ducking the American fighter. It's all untrue, of course.
     
  8. brown_bomber

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  9. ron u.k.

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    we've heard all this before."calzaghe is ducking lacy" "calzaghe is ducking kessler" "calzaghe is ducking hopkins" it's just plain boring, and peddled by people who know **** all about the fight game.
     
  10. majorer

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    You talk like you are the all knowing all mighty omnipresent God. You present your hopes, wishes and dreams as if they were fact.

    This is just stupid. You are delusional!!!!
     
  11. majorer

    majorer Member Full Member

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    Yes it is unbelievable how some people are willing to present assertions based on no evidence. But on there hopes and dreams.
     
  12. majorer

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    I am a Calzaghe fan. And I fear Roy Jones more than I fear Kelly Pavlik to beat Joe. I believe that he will defeat both, if it came to that, though.
     
  13. Hermit

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    Non sequitur to what I posted.
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Joe is a victim of his own mouth. Just follow the time line.

    Sept 29, 2007: Pavlik destroys Taylor while Joe looks on via sattelite. After the fight HBO interviews Calzaghe, and Calzaghe calls Pavlik out.

    Nov 3, 2007: JC beats Kessler, and continues to call out Pavlik.

    Before any other fights are made, and before JT says he'll excersize his rematch clause, Joe runs down to the nursing home, and picks a fight with BHop.

    All through the winter and early spring, up until Arum announces the Lockett fight, JC continues to Call Pavlik out.

    April 19, 2008: Calzaghe wins a split decision over BHop, proclaims himself a legend killer, and says he wants Roy Jones. He doesn't mention Pavlik.

    Just prior to the Lockett fight an interviewer asks Pavlik who he wants to fight next. With no hesitation whatsoever Pavlik says "Calzaghe." In the mean time Top Rank offers Joe 10 million pounds to fight Pavlik.

    June 7, 2008: Pavlik destroys Joe's stablemate, but Joe wasn't there. In the post fight press conference a reporter ask Pavlik who he wants next. Without hesitation Kelly says "Calzaghe. It's up to Arum and Duncan. If they tell me to fight Godzilla, I'll fight Godzilla."

    On or about June 12-13 2008 Calzaghe tells the South Wales Argus: "A lot of people would love to see it. However, at this point, I think it's unlikely. I'm not sure if Pavlik really wants to face me at the moment."

    You can interpret that any way you like, but I call it ducking, plain and simple. If it were Kelly who had been running off at the mouth, it would be different, but Joe spent at least 7 months calling Pavlik out, and all of a sudden when Kelly says yes, Joe wants to fight a has been in RJJ!
     
  15. sofanii

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    :patsch Oh yeah? Me and all the other with the same thoughts delusional??Calzaghe has definitely talked to much and now suddenly he isn“t interested in fighting Calzaghe! I wonder why????