Is Froch Wards best win?

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  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    what's GGG got to do with this?
     
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  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Andre Ward greatest win is the complete subjugation of all his opposition since his childhood...The wise thing is to not take sides against him, opposing Ward in anything is the surest way to lose...

    Very powerful man, inside & outside the ring...Be glad that he is stuck in boxing, a guy like Andre Ward in the darker sides of life would cause so much agony to the helpless loud-mouthed peasants...
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    As both a massive fan of Carl Froch and Sergey Kovalev, as in they're in my Top 10 of the last two decades.

    I think my opinion should count for something.

    Froch had wins over: Bute, Kessler, Abraham, Taylor, Dirrell, Groves, Groves, Johnson, Reid
    Kovalev had wins over: Ward, Hopkins, Pascal, Pascal, Chilemba, Cleverly, Mohammedi, Campillo, Shabranskyy, Mikhalkin

    When you take into consideration Froch lost to Kessler, at best drew with Dirrell, needed a Hail Mary KO to bail him out against Taylor and Groves.

    Kovalev beat everyone he'd ever faced in dominant fashion, and beat Ward, who needed literally every advantage in the book to beat him in the rematch, including cheating to win.

    Kovalev it is.
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    kovie, he was a bona fide unified elite champ, and would likely have been undisputed if not for chickenson and beefybiev.

    kovie also you can argue at least drew with probable ATG ward.

    carl was merely an elite champ, not sure he was proper unified that wba belt might have been the "reg" one but correct me if i am wrong.
    carl was always outclassed by ward (unless your name is failey and then carl nearly won and took several rounds with ease lol).

    In migitation, kovie was unified after catching hopkins at his worst, just at the right time, when he happened to have the belts but was clearly ebbing fast against him and Smith... literallly the first time you'd have seen hopkins looking like he was getting smashed up and helpless.
     
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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Iceferg makes a good point.
    It's arguable that Kessler is wards best win.
    Kessler wasn't on a controversial run of decisions like froch and beat undefeated froch a couple of fights before ward fought him.
    Kessler was wba champ at the time having beaten world champs for titles. Froch only had the title Kessler vacated and kessler had a greater smw resume.
     
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  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    obvously hes not, unless you have some kind of agenda like failey.
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Kovalev drinks to much vodka that’s why he gasses and can’t take body shots.
     
  8. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Ward’s best wins are Kovalev and Chad Dawson. The Froch fight was a mismatch ultimately.
     
  9. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    a weight drained Dawson gtfoh
     
  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    "At his worst".....cough 49 years old you mean cough.
     
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  11. Odins beard

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    What would you call a weight drained Dawson then if Froch was a mismatch?
     
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  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    i see, odbod, you think he was worse as a pro at what the age thn 49/50?

    i love to hear your opinion, u r a pal.
     
  13. Odins beard

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    Of course he was, Hopkins had a style that he crafted that lent to longevity on the sport.....Hopkins was still potent and P4P top 3 even at 44 years old....however, at 49 I think it's a bit far fetched to say that he was as good as his late 30's and even early 40's.
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    nevermind irrelevant opinions on other matters, but i thank you for confirming what i wrote about when he was 49/50.
     
  15. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Then wtf was Dawson?
     
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