Carl Froch sets the record straight on who would have won if he fought Calzaghe

the point at which you didnt ask a loaded question

 

how is it my fault that you double failed, you funny guy.

 

39 pages

 

Again you have nothing......ironically just like your life by the looks of things (spending all your time stalking Calzaghe posts/threads).

 

This will be a 50 pager.

Wait until the 'King of Spin' returns.

Do you know that he believes Sven Ottke has a better resume than Andre Ward?

 

There's no way Joe would've faced Kovalev. None.

Considering Joe was merely cashing checks fighting a shot former great and a 44 year old with no punching power when he moved to 175, I don't really blame him. Joe was far from his best years at 175 too.

But the thought of Joe taking that fight is hilarious.

 

He's never had to travel. He's been lucky in that respect. His promoter had a hand in creating the Super Six, and then after he'd won it, he became a P4P fighter who fought on HBO. And that gave him a lot of leverage.

Regarding a fight with Joe, like I said, it would have depended on the circumstances at the time.

 

I agree.

The funny thing is, I honestly think that Joe could have beaten him, had he have fought to his full capabilities. And I know that I'm in a minority with that opinion.

 

He's never had to travel because he's always had to have the deck loaded in his favour in order for him to fight.

There was massive fights against Bute and Stevenson in Canada and Froch in Nottingham yet he's rather face Rodriguez, Brand etc.

My point is as valid as your Kovalev point.

 

We'll disagree there. I think Joe was an interesting fighter, but far from an unbeatable one.

To beat Kovalev you need to hit him with something hard enough to get some respect and establish some distance. Joe had speed and endurance, but zero power; especially at 175.

Joe keeps his hands way too far away from his face, Kovalev walks him down, and puts him down like a shot RJJ did. Only difference is Kovalev keeps putting him down until the fight is over.

 

As a Ward fan, I agree with this. Yes, I was at the Rodriguez fight and it was a fun night, but I became a fan of Ward because he joined the Super Six and tested himself. It looked like we finally had a 168 pounder willing to make all the big fights.

And then he became a diva, inactive, and stayed at home. Keep in mind Rodriguez and Abraham were 500 miles away from home, but nowhere near what Bute in Montreal would have been.

 

You've just said it yourself: He never had to travel.

Why would you travel if you didn't have to?

Everyone's circumstances are different.

Again, he was fortunate. Goosen got him fights at home in the Super Six, which culminated in him becoming one of the best fighters in the world fighting on a huge network for HBO.

Floyd Mayweather never travelled.

That's not evidence to say that they definitely wouldn't have travelled under different circumstances.

Again, there wasn't a massive fight in Nottingham. I don't know why you keep saying that. Carl just put the feelers out to massage his ego. He never really wanted a rematch.

Andre fought Rodriguez and Brand as tune ups, due to prolonged periods of inactivity due to injury and contractual disputes. He then obviously went on to fight Kovalev in huge fights afterwards.

Regarding Joe, again, he spent 14 years at SMW and only had 2 official fights at LHW. He spent 90% of his career shrinking himself down to defend a lightly regarded belt against mainly B and C class fighters. It's pure fantasy to claim that he'd have moved up and fought Kovalev. This was a guy who fought Mario Veit twice.

 

I agree in that just because he was unbeaten, it didn't mean that he was unbeatable. Far from it. But I could envisage him frustrating Sergey with his fast flurries, if he'd been 100% confident.

 

He never had to travel because He always made sure that everything waxstacked on his favour prior to fighting.

If JC only faced B/C level fighters then what do you call Green, Abraham, Bika, Rodriguez?

I've omitted a corpse of Dawson who was subsequentlyknocked out in a round off Stevenson (the same Stevenson who called Ward out and Ward....well....didn't seem to want to know) and then went 3-3 in his next 6 fights.

Also Froch who I've never rated as elite, he's a level below and obviouslythe victory over Kessler which was top tier.

 

I'm agreeing with you in regards to him travelling. But he had that leverage.

He had 32 fights.

Joe only left Europe twice in 46 fights.

I didn't say that Joe only faced B and C class fighters. I said that he stayed at SMW to fight mainly B and C class fighters.