Who is the best new heavyweight prospect? Yoka joyce hrgovic dycko dubois or someone else?

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  1. On The Money

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    Damn shame that. Explosive heavy handed talent.
     
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    Hrgovic looks like a upgraded version of Parker. Allaround better in almost every category.
     
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    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Forgot about Arslanbek Makhmudov and Efe Ajagba. Both solid prospects to add to the list of heavyweight propsects. Makhumudov a brutal puncher and Efe as well but Makhumudov for me is more skilled and will go further.
     
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    Romanov knocked out Wilder as an amateur. He looked great in his last fight.
     
  5. Yizzy

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    Usyk, Hrgovic, Teslenko, Dychko - are the main four for me. They are all certain to be in the top 10 and challenging for a world title at the very least.

    Kuzmin, Gorman, Kean, Joyce and Sirenko are looking very good too.
     
  6. Yizzy

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    & it'll be interesting to see what weight (Heavyweight or Cruiserweight) Evgeny Tischenko turns pro at ( he makes his debut soon) He won Gold at every major tournament. He's 6ft 5 so hopefully he'll be campaigning at heavyweight, would be a great addition to the division.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Makhumudov ( 3-0, 3 first round KO's ) is a monster of a man. Very intimidating gin my opinion. He could play a evil henchmen in the next James Bond movie, and you'd fear for Bond even if he had lead pipe in one hand and a knife in the other.

    Makhmudov is a brutal puncher. He's got Foreman like thudding power, meaning he can hurt you even if he doesn't land clearly or in a tough spot to take a punch. He's also down in weight from a debut of 261 to a more ideal 248 pounds for his well muscled 6'5" 1/2 frame.

    I'm not sure about his defense abilities, or refined offensive skills, but IMO the Russian can be a force. His ability to take a punch is good ( proven in the world series of boxing ), perhaps not great, but good for sure.

    [url]http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/817769[/url]
     
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    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Tischenko to me is an amateur talent that will have some trouble transitioning to the professional game at heavyweight once he approaches the top 40 level or better.

    Why?

    He's a technician without top speed. His power is probably below average in comparison to the other top new pros. Everyone 6'4" or taller these days so the height and reach advantage he enjoyed at 91k ( Not super heavyweight ) would be gone.

    I'd set the bar at a regional European level. At age 27, he can go pro now. He'd be a fine addition.
     
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    I mostly disagree. But it would have been good to see him in the WSB. I think he'll be able to adapt.

    if Hughie Fury can win a world title ( he has serious feathers and I had him beating Parker) then Tischenko ( average power) elite skilled in most departments, solid chin - never been dropped in the amateurs can too.
     
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    Teslenko and Hrgovic. Don't get what people see in slow and clumsy Dubois, he's Michael Grant version #2 at the very best.
     
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    Tischenko can box and IS/WAS in the WSB.

    [url]https://www.worldseriesboxing.com/boxers/tischenko-evgeniy/[/url]

    He's 8-2 in the WSB. This is very good however he's not KO'ing many. Only two stoppage wins in ten vs WSB opponents.

    A minus to me is he did not beat the best opponent in my opinion that he faced at the WSB in Savon, however that fight took place in 2014.

    Hughie Fury isn't a bad comparison. Hugo might be a bit taller and more mobile.
     
  12. Serge

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    Yoka - KO'd, dropped and stopped numerous times
    Joyce - dropped and stopped a couple of times (very porous defence more than anything)
    Hrgovic - never dropped or stopped AFAIA
    Dychko - KO'd once
    Dubois - don't think he's been dropped or stopped
    Gorman - don't think he's been dropped or stopped
    Jalolov - stopped once (not sure if dropped)
    Sirenko - dropped and stopped once
    Teslenko - stopped numerous times IIRC
    Rock - dropped and stopped
    Ajagba - don't think he's been dropped or stopped

    In terms of quality of opposition and the number of the world's elite SHWs fought,Hrgovic's resume is one of the very best of this group. So the fact that he's never even been dropped, stopped or KO'd (AFAIA) is notable. In fact, I've never even seen him hurt before.

    *He'll probably be the first of them to get KO'd now that I've said that lol*

    With the exception of Rock who I'm not very familiar with at all, all these fighters have potential
     
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    He has beaten Savon in the World Championships though.
     
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    @Serge When to comes to Chins.. the HW prospects with the best chins are Hrgovic and Kuzmin, and Tischenko if he turns pro at heavyweight.

    Dychko fought against the best HWs over and over and only got Dropped that one time. to the biggest puncher and best SHW amateur of this era Majidov.
     
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    Jololov was dropped heavily few months ago but recovered and knocked out new Russian amateur prospect but other than that you are correct. Sirenko was dropped,yes, but never stopped. Teslenko's stoppages was more from accumulation from punches but still stoppages. Ajagba haven't been stopped. Kuzmin has been stopped once by David Arshba by TKO 3 in the beginning of his career. Efetebor Apochi who is promising cruiser-weight haven't been stopped as well. Tischenko haven't been stopped as well. Evgeny Romanov have been stopped only twice, once by Romanchuk(R.I.P) and some whose name I don't remember. Oscar Rivas have been stopped more than few time in one fight he was stopped in less than 10 seconds. Levit has been stopped once but he is still in amateurs. I might be wrong but Kean might have been stopped 7 times in amateurs.
     
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