Crawford's resume grows more suspect

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  1. Stratocaster

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    I know they are smaller but I still find it hard to believe that anyone on TCs resume outboxes either Rigo or GRJ! :)
     
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  2. Serge

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    From a GRJ vs Mikey Garcia thread from Feb 2012

    One poster said ''GRJ will tap that ass''

    Manfred's response


    :lol:and Mikey knows it.

    On a Mikey Garcia invites Gamboa to come get sum thread from 2013

    One poster said

    ''Mikey Garcia will get his toughest test's at north of 130, he is young... just 25 and can still fil in and has the power to move up.. he is gonna be the closest thing possible to a JMM reincarnation for me

    He won't get truly tested till he takes on bigger guys, his skills and power at 126 is to much for anyone to handle right now at 126''

    Manfred replied to it with this


    Ain't Gary Russell Jr. at 126?:huh

    On a Whose next for Mikey thread from 2013


    Like I said, GARY RUSSELL JR IS AT 126, WHAT THE **** IS UP WITH THAT?. Don't act like he is not qualified because we know better than that. If Mikey moves up then I ain't got no hate fkor that but when I read people talking about 126 is dead and ain't no fights to be made, well that's just dissing Gary and that's some bull****.:bbb

    GRJ vs Abner Mares thread 2013

    One poster said

    ''Russell Jr. will beat the **** out of Mares right now''

    Manfred's response


    You got that right. will beat the brakes off his ass.:yep

    Mares ain't got no real skills, he a rough and tumble with a lot of heart and grit. However skills pay the bills and Russell has skills up the yang yang. He also has speed and power. If you wanna see a real ass whoopin, put Mares in with Russell and your wish will be granted.:bbb

    2013


    ****, that's wishful thinking. They avoiding GR like the plauge, pretending like he's not ready.:scaredas:

    Russell has fought more pros than Lomanchenko and I believe he would have knocked both Salido and Lomo's asses out.

    Loma vs GRJ thread 2014


    If he fights Russell, that will be his second loss.

    He can't learn **** from Salido that will help him with Russell. Two totally different animals.:bbb

    Another Loma vs GRJ thread


    Knowing how Bob Arums funky ass works, it won't be Russell. He will do that Pac thang and put him in there with some easy money and hype it up. If that's the case then Russell is certainly the wrong fighter cause all Russell is bringing is a serious ass whooping and old Bob knows it. Pac is vacant title king.


    Russell is ready, all this talk about who he hasn't fought is irrelevant. His skillset is evident and what I see, it on par with Lomachenko and his speed and pop will carry the day for him in the fight.

    After Loma paddled GRJ's ass


    I think that Luft knows that and is referring to the Russell now and he is a different fighter mentally. I would love to see him and Loma again. As for Loma and Walters, that's a 50/50 fight. While Loma has the technique, Walters has the power and the dog in him and that uppercut could spell doom for the Lama man. If Loma can keep him honest then I give the edge to him.

    When he comes for Loma's ass, Loma will be clean in another division. Loma is on notice, he caught Russell at the right time. Russell was still green and Martinez was just waiting for somebody to knock his no talent ass out. The only dog he's been in there with is Salido and Salido don't have the precision, movement or power of Davis. Russell is ready for his ass now but he ain't looking back. He moving through these divisions picking off the weak. You can only do that for so long.

    2016


    :lol: If they don't know, they will know. Mr. Russell is about to tear some ass up. It's come to Jesus time and mercy is not in his vocabulary. He wants Loma like Joe Louis wanted Schmeling. I can't wait.

    2017


    No offense taken but I beg to differ. Regardless of how Loma starts, when he does start it's the same strategy and the same moves. His style worked fine in all his fights except the Salido fight. Instead of making adjustments, he just gutted it out and it costed him. How much figuring did it take for Sosa, Rocky, or even Russell who was really a novice when you compare his experience against Loma's. Loma is blessed with two attributes. His speed and his stamina. His ability to adjust his style or reconfigure his punch selection has yet to be seen
     
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  3. Manfred

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  4. The Akbar One

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    Surely you jest
     
  5. dougemerypm

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    The fact is he is NOT the only one doing it and you only ***** about him. You don't like him so at least pretend you are man enough to admit it. Enjoy Crawford continuing to win because it stick in your craw. By the way Horn will be heavier than Crawford on fight night and you won't hear Crawford fans whining
     
  6. Yizzy

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    I found it amazing that anyone can have Crawford high when he has the same resume as fighters nowhere near the top of the P4P lists..

    He's beaten nobody.
     
  7. PistolPat

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    I'm not gonna argue with most your points because I agree with them. However, this whole Lomas fights clean and lost because Salido fought dirty is starting to get annoying. A big part of Loma's matrix shuffle consists of him leaning his arm or elbow on the back of his opponents back when they duck, and then shifting his body weight onto them whilst moving to their side, preventing them from countering, making it difficult for them to see where he moved has to, and after Loma has repositioned himself he throws before they even have time to stand straight back up.

    This is the same equivalent of someone leaning on his opponents as they duck or come in low, then punch as they're coming back up, or punch on the break of a clinch. Even if Klinchko were to punch someone after he leans on them as they come back up.

    It's subtle, very smart and a unique technique, but it is an extremely dirty move that he has used over and over on many of his opponents (in the pros), so cut the crap with this he is a clean fighter bull.

    He, like many others before him have employed tactics that are dirty, but use it in a subtle manner and will continue to do so as long as the refs allow boxers to get away with it. In the end, if a lot of these little dirty tricks were enforced by refs boxing just wouldn't be the same.

    Salido was much dirtier in the way he fought that night, however he was also the one fighter that Loma was not able to employ this techniques on even though he was constantly coming in low the whole fight, and there was a reason for that.

    Lastly, Loma flat out took portions of rounds off underestimathing his stamina and paid the price. It's not all on Salido, he could have still overcome those low blows had he been more active, and maybe even get a K.O.
     
  8. Liquorice

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    Who?
     
  9. The Akbar One

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    He lost to Francisco Santana.
     
  10. slender4

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    Gamboa or Postol would thrash anyone Chenko has fought. Not an insult just observation.
     
  11. CST80

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    Except for Sosa one of Loma's weakest opponents, who Gamboa literally needed a gift over to win.
     
  12. slender4

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    That's a washed up 36 y/o Gamboa. Gamboa in his prime beat Salido easily and was p4p top 10 and undefeated when he fought Crawford.
     
  13. CST80

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    I think I had Gamboa winning 112-111, oh boy, what a schooling. The fight was far closer than the official scorecards suggest, Loma wasn't dropped by Salido was he? And that was in Gamboa... Oh.... 18th ****ing match. Give it a rest.
     
  14. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Oh look. The thread where everyone thought Postol was getting killed by Taylor.

    As far as Gamboa robbing Sosa. Laughable and losing to Salido is not >getting knocked down by Salido. I’m really starting to question the perception of reality on this board. Gamboa got deducted 2 points in the 12th round and still won. If the fight was really close, then Salido would’ve got the nod but no. Gamboa has Salido being the crying ***** that night. Just watch all the complaining he does. Reminded me of Lomachenko boy who cried wolf ass. Probably why Salido got away with as many low blows when they fought.
     
  15. slender4

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    Cistatey, really?

    All three judges reached a unanimous decision in favor of Gamboa, who now holds both the WBA World Featherweight title and the IBF Featherweight title to his name. Each with judge arrived at a calculation varying that of their fellow judges at 116-109, 114-109, and 115-109.

    And that's with Gamboa losing points for a (deserved) foul.
     
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