Gennady Golovkin vs Dick Tiger

A few things here, are we talking about a prime for prime match up or GGG vs Tiger, or is each man 36 years old. If you are talking prime for prime, the Canelo comment is worth much. Canelo by the way looked over 175 for that match. Hardly a welterweight, and likely on PED's which he was later busted for using.

Tiger was a short guy, he only had 27 KO's in 82 fights. And he lost 19 times. Right off the bat, this shows you he's not a stoppage type of guy, and he's not a top boxer either. Look who outpointed him and how many decisions he lost.

Also aside from Foster who iced an older Tiger in 4 rounds, which punchers did he fight on GGG's level. I see none.

By contrast GGG never lost, has 34 KO's in 39 fights.

Tiger was tough for sure, but he's not out boxing GGG. GGG's jab alone could win this fight, and I do not think GGG would respect Tiger's power enough to prevent him from letting his hands go.

I'll go on GGG via 8-4 type of decision, with a possible stoppage in the later rounds.

 

3G takes Diick at MW, split points, wth Tiger shining too bright at LHW.

 

actually maybe not, i just been checking out Diick. He took down HoFers, ATGs even.

3G kinda levelled out at elite in his only effort at that level, so far.

As yet, we dont have enough evidence to judge this one.

 

I like how his first name got censored in this post lol

 

My apologies.

Was he the fighter he would become when he lost to 21-12-2 Randy Sandy:

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/11380

I'm not trying to be funny. I'm pointing out that these are the sorts of fighters Golovkin would crush on autopilot, at any time. Yet Tiger kept dropping decisions to these sorts of fighters throughout his career.

 

There's no ridiculousness whatsoever. Golovkin is first and foremost a boxer, a puncher second. If he was only a face first brawler I'd give Tiger a good chance of knocking his block off. I made this very same observation in this post:

"But Golovkin has always been careful with big punchers and out boxed them. This will be easier than Jacobs."

I'm certain that he would out jab him, and I'm certain that Golovkin would respect Tiger's power. GGG has a great chin, yes, but part of it is knowing which fighter he can take chances with and which fighter he can't. He fights with caution against the big hitters. A points win seems about right to me.

 

We agree.

I think Golovkin has a tremendous chin and power. That said, why engage in a slugfest with a guy who looks literally built for that? Tiger looks as hard and durable as they come! This whole GGG destroyer thing is mostly hype to sell fights. Not to say that GGG doesn't punch freaking hard, but his wins are built on punch placement and timing almost entirely. He very rarely just goes out and throws wildly.

There I guess we differ. I think his footwork is superlative, his timing really good and his arsenal of punches complete. He has chin, he has power. He has basically no weakness other than his much criticized defence ... and even that is mostly exaggeration. Golovkin's strength is that he does pretty much everything well.

 

Mid- 60's Tiger pushed Hurricane Carter all over the ring.

1965-05-20 : D. Tiger 163 lbs beat Rubin Carter 159 lbs by UD in round 10 of 10

• Location: Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, USA
• Referee: Zach Clayton
• Judge: Jimmy Riccio 9-1
• Judge: Johnny Dean 8-1
• Judge: Zach Clayton 6-2

• Unofficial AP scorecard: 9-1 Tiger
• Photo #3, Photo #4, Photo #5,

From Sports Illustrated, May 31, 1965:

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Tiger stands over Carter in round four
The first round was uneventful as far as the fans were concerned, but Tiger, throwing a right—his right is decidedly inadequate—and then following with a left hook at the end of the round, found his pattern. The harmless right and the seemingly sweeping left hook added up to something lethal because at the tail end of all that motion was another left hook, short and quite explosive. It was to produce one of the more forgettable evenings in Carter's career.

Tiger caught Carter early in the second round. The left hook—Tiger leaps when he throws it, a habit that led to his adoption of the pseudonym Tiger—smashed into Carter's jaw, and Rubin drooped to the floor, his head hanging outside the bottom ropes. Carter was up at the count of three and, though unsteady on his feet and obviously weakened, refused to hold and was soon at Tiger again. Tiger, his left hand sawing away at Carter's head, dropped Rubin a second time. Carter wobbled to his feet at the count of six, four counts after the bell signaling the end of the round. Referee Zack Clayton made an ambiguous motion with his right hand. To him it meant the fight would go on for at least another round, but to almost everybody else in Madison Square Garden the gesture indicated that he was stopping it. Tiger, obviously siding with the majority, smiled, did a slow pirouette in one corner of the ring and acknowledged the roar of the crowd with a wave of his hand. He was eight rounds premature.

After a wary third round Carter went down again in the fourth. Apparently convinced—Carter takes a lot of convincing—that he was being a trifle foolish, charging into Tiger's best guns, Carter decided to box. The idea was good, but the execution was not, for Carter is no boxer. He jabbed his way through the remaining rounds—much to the annoyance of the crowd of 9,785—and carefully, if not picturesquely, circled away from Tiger's left hand. Once he did catch Tiger with a straight right hand, but Tiger seemed more surprised than stunned. The fight was no challenge for the judges, who gave most of the rounds to Tiger.

Notes

• Tiger was a 12 to 5 favorite.
• A crowd of 9,785 produced a gate of $37,790.
• Tiger made approximately $10,000 and Carter $7,500.
• "Tiger is a great fighter," Carter said after the fight. "He just whipped me good."
• "I want either middleweight champion Joey Giardello or light heavyweight champion Jose Torres," Tiger said following his victory. "I don't care which one as long as I get a title fight."

 

Early losses when he moved from Nigeria to Britain in the winter have been attributed to readjustments in a new life. Not an unreasonable view, but he warmed to the task winning the Empire title, as well as beating Terry Downes and lightheavy Yolande Pompey.
Moving to America, he fought often, avoiding no one. Fights he lost were often razor close in the highly competitive middleweights, when boxers were not precious about undefeated records.
After years of making weight, he did what few middleweights have done, winning the undisputed lightheavy title. No super middles then, a complete 15 pound jump up!
A year after being badly knocked out by the great Bob Foster, approaching 40, he beat the undisputed middle champ 31 yr old Nino Benvenuti, 18 months before Nino lost his title to Monzon.
Maybe the Tiger naysayers could do a bit more research into his short life.
The height difference between GGG and Tiger would be the same as the Alvarez bout. Could be the same kind of 12 round fight, however, Tiger did not deal in being timid.

 

Prime Golovokin would being given a serious challenge by the Nigerian strongman. Golovokin after some early exchanges would realize that Tiger was incredibly physically strong and would then wisely box Tiger behind his jab. Golovokin on pts in a bruising battle.

 

Golovkin is 5'10 1/2 inches. Where did you get 5'9"? Tiger is tiny 5'7" tall, he'd be a zero on the outside here, and is outgunned. His KO% is very low. GGG's the opposite. Its clear who hit harder. In addition GGG can box. He's not losing decisions. Tiger, yeah he lost a lot of decisions.

Golovkin has never been floored as an amateur or pro. He takes a punch without retreating or covering up. An A chin for sure. Besides with Tiger's low KO% he doesn't need to worry about much

A jack of all trades and master of none? Nonsense. GGG's got one of the best jabs in the history of the division. His body attack is brutal, and his footwork is good.

I don't care if Tiger KO'd Spider Rico, Clubber Lang, or Ivan Drago, he's not winning here.

 

The guys outpointing prime Tiger all had reach advantages. Golovkin is actually at a reach disadvantage here against Tiger. GGG has some real T-Rex reach going on. He'd be at a huge reach disadvantage against the likes of Hagler and Monzon. There would only be one winner in the battle of the jabs.