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Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Aug 16, 2018.


Sloppy fat chinny slick twinkletoed bloke or gangly savant bone-crunching one-trick-pony?

Poll closed Nov 17, 2018.
  1. Fury on points

    28.7%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    5.0%
  3. Draw

    2.0%
  4. Wilder on points

    1.0%
  5. Wilder by stoppage

    63.4%
  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Never been a fan of Wilder but I’ve always admired his tenacity and I’m sure he’s recently said the sweet science thing is BS in as much as look at him and his lack of technical skill and yet?
     
  2. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    For whatever Wilder may have improved, he's still showing the same vulnerabilities too.

    The shot Molina caught him with came from Wilder's horrific balance......
    The Ortiz hook was the same.


    Don't get me wrong, Fury isn't a heavy hitter.
    But neither is Molina.
     
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  3. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    That's the thing though. He may not have the punching power to keep Wilder off, but he has the punch accuracy, timing and movement to keep him honest.

    Combine that with the significant weight advantage and Fury everything in his court to tire Wilder before he has the chance to get into the fight. Remember, the fights that Wilder has looked good the opposition has sit in front of him ready to be caught. Even then, some of those fights went 4+ rounds.

    Against Fury, he will have to find him. Something he hasn't had to do before. Against Ortiz, he struggled to catch him clean & that was against an undeniably slow fighter (hand and footspeed).
     
  4. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Can someone explain to me where the 'Myth' that Wilder has a good gas tank comes from?

    His punch output isn't high, and he loses rounds based off lack of activity more than anything.


    Can he follow Fury around the ring for 12, all whilst being hit by the jab which nullified Wlad?
     
  5. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Yes Wilder is more than beatable and if Ortiz had some conditioning (and the same help Wilder got!!) He may have been champ now but you only have to make one mistake and it is game over..

    Fury at his best is one of the few guys i'd expect to stay out of harms way but that Fury is not around atm.. He still has alot of work to do and I would prefer him to step up another level as opposed to going all in now..
     
  6. JacK Rauber

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    As usual, I fell asleep trying to watch the Fury fight. This guy is better than Ambien. And he seemed on something to me. Seemed nervous as hell when he was doing his song and dance after the fight. A carefully orchestrated payday for the two of them. He and Wilder looked like kissing cousins in there. Trying to sell the public on an awful fight. Fury is a joke. If Wilder can't take Fury out then he is a bum.
     
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  7. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Exactly what I have been saying to posters leading up to this fight!

    Combine - low punch output, the inability to cutoff a ring and you have Fury landing his annoying double jab all night long.

    Wilders rhythm coming forward will be non existent and Fury will use his weight advantage to drown Wilder.
     
  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well let’s hope he was holding back last night then cause I don’t see that keeping Wilder honest and I say in the knowledge that Wilder nearly always gets outboxed by everyone until he gets the KO.
    I just think with Wilder being so erratic n all that Fury and his stick n move thing won’t have the effect it did on the more orthodox guys.
     
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  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably those late KOs he’s known for
     
  10. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Its easy to fight bums back to back and KO them all, Wilder is still the biggest HYPE job in boxing history to me, right next to Adrien Broner and JEFF Lacey.
     
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  11. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I don't think we'll know the answer until he fights AJ.
     
  12. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Against guy's who have even worse gas tanks than him?
     
  13. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Okay. But people are concerned because of that layoff.
    You can't say, "Given that he's paralyzed, he boxed very well."

    And that's not immensely concerning to you? Because that's all I saw.

    I saw someone who previously never got hit now getting hit.

    Someone who basically bases their entire strategy off evasion now getting hit.

    That's always been Wilder's sole strategy. It's worked fine for him so far.

    That's just dumb. Wilder doesn't go for point decisions at all, and Fury goes almost 100% for point decisions.

    It's either a Wilder KO or a Fury UD.

    There's a slight chance of a Fury KO, but that's probably very unlikely.
     
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  14. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't, this forum is a ***** forum. Can watch men batter each other until one can't stand anymore but saying **** is a big no-no. It's the goddamn times is what it is. Everyone's a goddamn *****. If they heard me say goddamn they'd ****in' cry. So you have you context otherwise I have to edit my **** so's it don't offend delicate eyes and when I don't give a **** about my message enough to do that this is what you get. I'm not even angry when I do it, most times, that time, this time, it's just I don't actually speak like I'm a ****in' twelve year old girl in grammar school.
     
  15. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol may be so but he’s only being compared to those around him.I take your point but we’ve all seen the AJ the no 1 guy gassed after five rounds,not sure any could do fifteen