POLL: AJ-Povetkin to Generate 50% of the Wilder-Fury Mega Event. Effect on future purse splits?

750k PPV buys? tell him he's dreaming. If Wilder - Fury can get Whyte - Parkers 400k PPV buys, ill give them a standing ovation.

 

Grrrrrrroooooaaaaannnnnn.

Are we back to purses "validating" fighters now?

 

Nope, I'm saying you're a clown if you don't realize Whyte will fight 1 week before or same weekend as Fury - Wilder to steal their thunder, hence their holding back on announcing, and good luck selling PPV's in Britain at 6am on a Sunday winters morning when you can watch Whyte fight at the pub on a Saturday night the night before. If they get 400k PPV buys, ill raise my glass to them.

 

I simply don't care, is what Im saying.

 

It’s not bigger than Joshua Klitchsko was. It won’t be anywhere near as good a fight either.

 

If, and I mean if, the Wilder v Fury fight generates north of £50mn it would cause a major headache for Joshua and his handlers. Any argument for being the "A-Side" is entirely dependent on money and legitimacy in the division. If they generate more than Joshua managed against Klitschko, the money argument becomes impossible to impose. When you then add in that the Wilder or Fury will be the lineal champion, the WBC champion and have the best heavyweight record by far, it becomes incredibly difficult to to impose a legitimacy based argument.

Now add in the fact that Joshua's reputation is at a low since the Klitschko win. The simple fact that Wilder and Fury are fighting has brought into question his heart and reputation as a fighting man. He will need to fight the winner in order to regain his position and protect his earning power.

All in all, if the Wilder v Fury fight fulfills its potential there is a good chance the winner will be able to dictate terms to Joshua in any future negotiations. If Wilder wins I expect Joshua will have to go to America and will be getting considerably less than $50mn guaranteed. If Fury wins I expect Joshua will have to do across-promotion with BT Sport or maybe even fight in Vegas if Fury deems it to be preferable financially.

 

Adding in the US interest makes it financially bigger without question.

In terms of the spectacle, Klitschko v Joshua was a great fight and I doubt any future Joshua fight will equal that either. One thing I can say for sure is that Wilder's and Fury's last fights were both considerably more entertaining than Joshua's.

 

How exactly is the winner going to dictate terms to the unified champion who earned $47m last year and will have sold over 250,000 tickets in his last 4 fights?

Seriously, how do you think that conversation goes?

 

Quite simply.

Firstly, Joshua's gate receipts are far lower than any comparable Vegas event. For example, Calzaghe-Hopkins generated more from 14k tickets in 2008 than Joshua-Klitschko did from 90,000 tickets in 2017. Lots of cheap ticket sales might sound impressive to you or I, but it isn't going to sway negotiations for a super fight. If it did, Manny Pacquiao would have deserved 90% against Mayweather as his ticket selling power in the Philippines would be meteoric.

Secondly, Fury or Wilder will be the lineal champion and Joshua will still be a relatively recent paper titlist. I am a big fan of Joshua, but to claim he is the more establshed heavyweight in the wake of Wilder v Fury is simply ridiculous.

The Wilder v Fury winner could well be the higher earner with the more legitimate heavyweight record. If that is the case, Joshua loses his negotiating power in a big way.

 

has anybody ever bought a fury or wilder ppv?

 

You're a funny guy Davo!

Half way through your post I couldn't understand why you wasted so much time running the numbers.. is this your hobby? Do work with Frank Warren?

You forgot to break down your 25-30 million estimate for AJ-povetkin based on the 38 million historic high for AJ or did you just slap a 70 per cent super medium rare conservative estimate on that too?

Look man, come out of la la land, Wilder ain't number #1 just because he beats Fury, and Fighting Fury doesn't grant him a higher split againt AJ. That's crazy talk.

Money draw ain't how you size up the quality of an opponent either... I'm just mystified with your analysis. Where's the logic.