Wilder's $50,000,000 offer to Joshua exposed - Lack of funding.

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  1. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Until recently, Joshua was free to fight outside the UK without Sky.....


    People believe that means that Joshua would've been able to fight Wilder, in the US, on BT Sport, Sky's main competitor. Sky/BT are the UK Market's equivalent of Showtime/HBO......Whoever has Joshua, controls the market.


    Why would Sky, the largest UK platform by a distance, continue to promote Joshua afterwards?

    Hell, they could offer him $60,000,000 to not fight Wilder on BT Sport.
     
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  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep I’d love it in the States and I think AJ should fight there some time as it’s got the history and all but I agree money wise it’ll do nothing in PPV as Wilder himself as fought all his career in front ten thousand tops in Alabama.
    Heck it’s not long ago he was signing autographs down at Tuscaloosa booze shop and that’s not me joking lol.
     
  3. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    For too long the pro-Wilder brigade have been pointing at virtually every other fighter as the reason why Wilder isn't a draw and isn't in the biggest fights.

    The reality is, it's his team's poor management which is the problem.

    People refuse to accept that Al Haymon has done a terrible job for Wilder......
    Whilst Hearn has done the complete opposite for Joshua......
    And that's why we have so many comments hating on Joshua/Hearn.


    Wilder, could, and should've been the man in the division.

    The problem is, when you win the WBC HW title and have had 35 fights, but call yourself a 'prospect' who 'is not ready for Klitschko'......

    And then two guys come along, and beat Klitschko to become Unified in significantly less fights.....Is it any surprise you're not given as much respect?




    I've pointed the above out many times, but just get labelled a 'Matchroom fanboy'......

    The reality is, Wilder is in a far weaker position than Joshua, because Hearn has outplayed Haymon.
     
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  4. LONDONBOY

    LONDONBOY New Member Full Member

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    What are you on about ? Jesus Christ. Firstly, Hearn has said he didn't even know about this BT/Warren involvement as he would have rejected the offer straight up if Sky were not the UK Broadcaster.

    Why did you think Finkle didn't send a contract and told Hearn there was a deadline and he had to agree to the terms before he was able too look at it ? Hearn made the right decision.

    As you have been told, the previous Sky contract was only for UK TV Rights. With the new one signed in July, i presume that's anywhee Joshua fights, Sky has Exclusive UK Rights.

    If miraculously BT got Joshua-Wilder. Sky would still want Joshua after the fight as he's a money maker for them and delivers the highest PPV Numbers ever seen by Sky. But the chance of BT getting Joshua-Wilder is 0.001%.
     
  5. LONDONBOY

    LONDONBOY New Member Full Member

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    But then Hearn has also said Joshua-Wilder in the US still makes more money than in the UK ? How about that, the US Boxing Scene is so dry and dead and still it's Joshua's best chance to become GLOBAL.

    It dosent matter if Wilder is not well known. No current Boxer is, in the states. I would like to point out though, Wilder v Ortiz got 1.2M Viewers on Showtime. Which is a very high number.

    You put together Joshua and Wilder, undisputed heavyweight titles, blend of personalites, both English Speaking, both look like Heavyweights, UK V USA, Showtime PPV who would use CBS and ESPN which are massive platforms in the US, Las Vegas Site Fees etc Are you really saying this fight wouldn't make more Economic sense for Joshua and Wider ? Trust me this fight will do strong in the US.

    And Don't give me that shi* of "it's for the fans".
     
  6. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once again proving what an idiot you are.

    You do know Sky are a tv station and not a promotional company right?

    Also money talks. AJ could bang Adam Smith's wife and they would still welcome him back onto Box office.
     
  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ever had a job make? Yeah? Ever asked for proof of funds regarding your salary at a job interview? Thought so...

    You don't get to ask questions when you are offered a deal mate, you TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. AJ balked at the job interview, and gonna earn far less in his next professional job.
     
  8. Anne-Marie

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    Wasn't Lewis v Tyson also Showtime/HBO over there?


    Anyway, don't really make any odds to Joshua/Wilder because Beyonce has no exclusive contract with anybody.
     
  9. Geo1122

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    I'm surprised that people are still talking about this 50 million offer. The fact that it came directly from Wilder should tell you all you need to know. Along with the crazy deadline and, as I recall, it being sent to the media as well, makes it lose all credibility.

    It was only afterwards that the 50 million offer was legitimised by Wilder's team.

    One thing that I am certain about is that Wilder's team desperately want control of this fight, and seem to be doing everything in their power to take that away from Matchroom, which seems ridiculous given the difference is stature between the two fighters.
     
  10. uppercut_to_the_body

    uppercut_to_the_body Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is so dumb.

    Joshua's exclusive deal with Sky is only for fights in the UK.

    Wilders 50 million offer was in the states so straight away that's no issue with BT.

    Even if it was in UK, Joshua would be allowed by Sky to fight on another platform if it was a one off occasion. Sky know Joshua has all the power. They want to keep him happy so long term he stays with them. They'd make exceptions to keep him happy.
     
  11. Holler

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    It would never happen and both sides know it. It's the opposite of the Godfather's offer you can't refuse, it's the offer you must refuse.

    Joshua and Matchroom are not going to junk the bedrock of their highly successful commercial operation, the relationship with Sky Sports, for a one off boost in earnings of a few million dollars.

    You're talking about a guy who earned $47m last year and was always going to earn $30+ from this fight wherever it was fought and whoever promoted it.
     
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  12. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Id ask for proof of funds if i were offered $1000 an hour to stand at the checkout at Walmart 9 hours a day. Also if i got offered a job for amazing money id be asking what would be expected of me. Its at that point Hearn was told there was no need to know any more details and Finkel shut the door on in his face. If that happened to me i would baulk at the job interview too and not blindly accept the job.
     
  13. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    People are still talking about it because its all they have to hang on to. They dont want to hear about the lack of terms, they dont want to hear about lack of funds, they dont want to hear about how ridiculous it is to try to put it on BT Sport and they dont want to hear about Finkels wierd way of doing business by shutting the shutters on Hearn and refusing to do any business. So they ignore all the nonsense and wierdness and stick to their 50 million doe story.
     
  14. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still find it mad even now that you believe all that. Hearn himself has even said differently, infact it's Hearn who's story changes everytime he speaks about it.

    As unbelievable Wilders team are at least they are mostly consistent
     
  15. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You would, and they'd say "lol whatever mate, send the next one in who understands who asks the questions here". If ur offered a job, it's not your place to question where the funds come from, your place is either to accept the deal and honor it, or balk at it. Once there's a signed agreement with your salary in it, and once you've done the job they hired you for, then you get paid. And if you don't, you ask the questions or sue. That's what AJ was offered, and his ego couldn't take the backseat, even for $50.000.000+++. And that's why he's fighting Povetkin for far less, and Wilder for far more he was offered.
     
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