Frank Warren SCHOOLS Barry Hearn 120-108 on this mornings radio

He’s done alright then for a non boxing man. Respect!

 

Panto season comes sooner every year. I don't think either of them came over well. Warren was trying to obfuscate over the rematch clause. His line about 'no-one wants to get in the way of a big fight happening' was ridiculous. Hearn lost his cool far too quickly, considering the position of strength he's in there was no need.

 

If he sticks to that line there's no fight. No way on earth that Hearn would sign that deal and he'd be doing his fighter a disservice if he did. Fury doesn't bring enough to the table to justify that split and he doesn't have the alternative options that Joshua has to bolster his negotiating position. He could ask for anything he wants, but if he sticks on 50/50 he'll be left to try and seek his fortune elsewhere. With his fighting style not being friendly to the non purist that could prove tricky.

 

Well let's see. One fighter is selling 10's of thousands of tickets in stadiums and regularly over 1 mil PPV Buys. He holds 3 belts and beaten all challengers.

The other guy would be unbeaten with one belt but doesn't bring anywhere close the revenue to the fight that AJ does.

Tyson Fury shouldn't be getting anywhere near 50%. That's totally unrealistic.

Equal pay for champions makes no sense when one champion brings the vast majority of revenue to a fight.

If BJS fought Canelo next year you telling me there should be a 50/50 split just because BJS holds a belt?

Boxing has never worked like that and why should it? Each fighter had there own self worth and nobody can deny AJ brings far more to the table than what Fury does.

Koogan last week should of challenged Warren when he said it would be 50/50 on ifl. Warren asked why not and Koogan could of gave a list of reasons why not.

To call it greed is simply ridiculous. Its a lot easier to start demanding 50/50 when you are the side which benifits from such a deal. Flip it around and I don't think Warren would be so generous.

 

Hearn stated there is no rush to fight Wilder or Fury.
Joshua has already walked away from $50m. Prepare for Whyte2 Beef.

 

Fury/Wilder will want close to a 50-50 split, Hearn will want 75-25 to risk his golden goose, and Joshua will carry on fighting old men and European level fighters e.g Whyte.

Joshua will fight neither in 2019.

 

If only Fury was as entertaining in the ring as he can be out of it.

He’s great at building fights but just not entertaining enough in the ring, the Klitschko fight was boring as hell and he won narrowly with a a very fan unfriendly style despite some people revising history and telling us how great a boxing performance it was.

Joshua is still learning on the job and showing improvement but has been involved in some compelling fights, providing entertainment. At this stage I feel the Wilder fight is 50/50 but would much rather see this than a Fury fight as I watch boxing to be entertained and I think this is far more likely to be entertaining than a Joshua v Fury match-up.

I can understand Warren trying to maximise Fury and ultimately his slice of the pie, but he is being somewhat delusional, Fury will not sell out arenas or do the pay per view numbers, compare the numbers for Fury v Klitschko to Joshua b Klitschko. Whilst I’m not a fan of any promoter I can, to an extent, understand Hearn being hacked off with Warren trying to benefit from the work that has gone into building Joshua and the risks Joshua has taken early in his career.

 

I want Airwolf as my ride home and a letter from the Queen authorising me to use air to ground missiles on people whose exhausts are needlessly loud.

At least my demand is within reason.

 

Really it comes down to two questions.

Does AJ need Fury to sell 80k tickets.

Does AJ need Fury to sell 1 mil PPV Buys.

Answer is categorically no to both

 

Yeah pretty sure Bob Arum knew nothing about boxing before he came around. Arguably best promoter ever.

 

Barry is such a weaklink, played right into Frank’s Traps. Frank did avoid the question of what happens if Wilder loses and rematch into the contract, which is a simple question?

I would like to add, i do agree with Barry, Joshua v Fury is NOT 50/50, it’s 60/40 to Joshua or a straight up flat fee

 

Delusion. The Money is everything. Fury cannot do a PPV in the UK without Joshua. Joshua has done 1.5M against Parker and Klitschko.Joshua is a commercial and corporate dream with massive endorsements.

Fury when you compare the numbers and money generated is pub standard. 60/40 if you’re being fair. But then again the Hearns aren’t known for that and will probably look to leverage the Whyte fight as a second option.

Warren also forgot to mention, the small problem of the Sky and BT Situation. Joshua is contracted to Sky and Fury to BT. Warren said he wants a co-broadcast which is delusional. 60/40, Sky Sports Box Office and 100K Wembley with a Rematch Clause for both fighters.

This all becomes irrelevant if Wilder wins though

 

Warren has to try and split broadcast as BT want a return on investment.

You are right though it's unrealistic as what has Fury done to really demand a split broadcast.

Just look at the fights in the US where you have had a split. Tyson v Lewis. Mayweather v Pacquiao.

This mad sense as all the fighters had history of generating PPV Buys so it was understandable that one network wasn't prepared to miss out.

Tyson Fury has no history of generating large PPV revenue like AJ does.

 

I saw that as only as a SD for Warren. Hearn sounded childish and threw his toys out of the pram but Warren lied through his teeth about the rematch clause and the 50/50 split comment is ridiculous.

 

Warren came in a bit too aggressive and Hearn clearly overlooked the opponent. I had it close until Hearn showed the world at the end he wants nothing to do with Warren in a rematch. Warren by radio five live stoppage in the 12th round of a competitive dust up, winning the lineal radio championship of the world!