Another bizarre Hearn excuse to avoid Wilder and Fury

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I assuming he is setting a deadline because he doesn't want a repeat of what we saw this summer and Wilder's side dragging their feet. Joshua had planned to fight 3 times this year but only fought twice as the summer was frittered away with futile negotiations.

    Having said that though it does seem like a stupid deadline to make it before the Wilder/Fury fight. Makes me again doubt it happens any time soon, I don't think either side wants it in April 2019, they both seem committed to the long term build up BS. Both sides putting too many road blocks in place to make this fight seem realistic in the near future.
     
  2. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    What is this a surprise to you? Its not exactly new or unheard of. A promoters job is to get as much money for your fighter and in turn yourself and the less you pay the other fighter the more you get. Whats so new or surprising about that?
     
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  3. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    He has to set a deadline.

    He's made the decision to book Wembley months in advance. If he doesn't set a deadline then Finkel (or any other promoter) could drag out negotiations until the chances of getting a credible alternative opponent were reducing to zero and Hearns negotiating position would weaken by the day.

    The timing of the deadline is potentially a different matter. You could easily argue that Wilder cannot commit until the Fury fight is won because should he lose he will surely be exercising a rematch clause and fighting Fury for a second time.

    There's also the question of how much more Wilder is worth in the negotiation following a victory over fury, could that question realistically be answered in advance or would one need the figures from wilder fury to make any reasonable conclusions?

    But in all this there's also a good possibility that all this public jostling is for show and in private there's a shared plan for this fight somewhere in Matchroom / Haymons office safes.
     
  4. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Hearn has said he is fully understanding any negotiations or contracts would be based on Wilder winning because of his rematch clause with Fury (which neither Warren or Finkel are willing to admit is in the contract but we all know its there). But its quite clear Wilder wants 50-50 out of the Joshua fight and has gone out to try make himself atleast a joint A side by facing Fury 1st. With the Ortiz and Fury fights it feels like a last ditch attempt to ramp his own profile up so they can get more demanding at the Joshua table. Im convinced of this so i honestly see no chance of Finkel and Wilder negotiating a purse split until after the Fury fight.

    And dont get me wrong im not complaining at all about that last bit. Smart business move and anything that happens outside of the ring in this sport is just business. The weak 15 million offer to Wilder was a business move, Hearn and AJ could be paying Wilder more and still do well. But they have the argument of Wilders fanbase and earnings and so Finkel and Wilder are trying to counter that by putting on this Fury fight.
     
  5. My_Melody

    My_Melody New Member Full Member

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    I don’t know why people are saying Joshua didn’t look confident against Povetkin, he even dropped his his high guard, even against his corner telling him to get his hands up kept it low and worked the body and finished his man with a nice combination.

    People want boxing to be like back in the day, but it’s gone from can’t lose a fight to if you even lose a few rounds now your seemingly a bag a crap.

    On topic, these guys are fighting primarily for money, from the poor dudes taking a beating for a few bucks to the millionaires, if you think many of them are really fighting for some legacy or to make the fans happy you will more often than not be disappointed. Sports have all changed since decades gone by, it’s all a business now.
     
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  6. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    So one fighter is told sign by December or else and the other is told never ever 50/50?
    Better those two fight each other Wilder-Fury.