Eddie Hearn makes AJ look bad

Wilder is a joke. Finkel is a joke. American boxing scene is a joke.

Joshua is the real deal and Dillian.
Evidenced by actions.

Hearn is the real deal, evidenced by actions.

It's very simple why this deal falls apart... there is tons of money to be made and Wilder and Finkel want more than they are worth.

Joshua has three belts and a way better resume and he fills 80 000 at Wembley.

What has Wilder achieved in comparison? Why would he ask for more than 33 per cent? On what grounds!!!

 

You're preaching to the choir.

 

You're basing your whole argument off of Fury beating Wilder (laughable) and instigating the rematch clause. Why the **** Wilder can't just negotiate a deal for April 13th I don't know, you just stipulate that when Wilder sleeps Fury, the April 13 fight is on....simples, and should the impossible happen and Fury beats Wilder (which incidentally would have to be by KO cuz Fury ain't winning on points in the states) then Joshua goes to plan B which is why this deal needs to be sorted out in, I dunno, the next 8 weeks. Plenty of time

 

Because Wilder's worth will increase massively if he does sleep Fury. Do you not understand this? Hearn knows that it would be idiotic in the extreme to agree a fight with Joshua before this happens and he is deliberately sabotaging the fight by enforcing that ridiculous deadline.

 

Why does Wilders value increase massively by beating a guy so ill prepared and utterly wasted as Fury. Beating Fury in his current state is hardly better than Wilder stiffing that fat crap Bermane Stiverne the second time round.

 

Why is this always a black and white issue? Both boxers and both teams know this is a risky fight. And both are trying to maximise any advantage and financial squeeze they can make. That’s business and how it has always worked. Either fighter loses and their value drops so I get it. Right now though, on paper, Joshua has earned the right to certain advantages by holding more belts and generating more money. That’s not fanboy logic, that’s just factual. I’m sure Wilder could say the same if he had chased the belts down himself and maybe got a better promotion team. And as long as either side refuses to budge, the fight will not get made. And the only person that suits is Joshua. He has the belts, he has the crowds and he is fighting big fights. If someone else wants a piece of that pie, they need to make allowances. Nobody is ducking, this is a tough fight for both fighters and they are not going to take it lightly. If you are going to potentially lose a fight and that 0, why not make as much as you can? And the reality is out of the two of them, both professionally and financially, Wilder needs it more.

 

If Wilder was serious about his career and status as WBC champion, he'd only fight Fury when he was fully fit and match ready to legitamize the win over Fury other than it looking like yet another cherry pick, which it is....

 

If you really believe that then you are in idiot. Fury is a tough fight and anyone with legit boxing knowledge knows that.

Conversely I could flip it around and ask you why you think Joshua ought to have so much bargaining power and such an unfair purse split in his favour when his IBF was won against Chuckles Martin and the WBA was won as a vacant title against a man who was completely outclassed for that title by the legit Lineal Champion.

 

The Fury that beat Chisora 2.0, that beat Christian Hammer and Vladimir Klitscko would be a tough fight, that Fury no longer exists. He's even gone backwards with his training team ffs. Do you seriously see Ben Davison keeping Fury on the straight and narrow and motivated the same as Peter Fury? Everything points to this coming to a sad end for Fury whether he fights Wilder or not.

 

Joshua has fought who he had to to get the belts, right place, right time? Of course, that's what having a good promo team will do for you.

 

And that same statement applies to Wilder. Is he fighting Fury at the right time? Probably yes, just like Joshua against Klitschko, Martin, Whyte and Povetkin. So what's your point?

 

I generally agree. However why was their a general expectaction that Joshua should sign up to the fight when he himself had the Povetkin fight coming up.

Surely Wilder can sign for April, if he loses to Fury the rematch would void the April contract and AJ would the be looking for a new opponent in December.

Its almost as if NEITHER side really want it.

 

you've got to put it into context, he probably wouldn't have to fight Whyte for 2 years if he was mandatory. The WBC take an age to call mandatory's and there is already a mandatory that would come before Whyte.

 

and this is where the "debate" should begin and end. Neither side REALLY want it yet, it's all one big circus, and anyone without an agenda should see that

 

You on drugs? Want to give away half your earnings to an opponent that has never made a 10th of what you made? Not only that but Joshua has all the belts save the one in question.