Greatest Superfeatherweight of all time...

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  1. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Brian Mitchell
    Samuel Serrano
    Flash Elorde
    Alfredo Escalera
    a couple other names...

    Overall though I'd say Azumah Nelson is #1
    With Julio Cesar Chavez & Alexis Arguello at 2 & 3
     
  2. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Are you guys aware that Azumah Nelson is scheduled to fight on June 24th:admin

    Here's a guy who, in his 13th pro fight, fought Salvador Sanchez, and now at age 50 he is going to fight Fenech AGAIN:yikes
     
  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I know, that's insane..
     
  4. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    On June 18, 1999; I decided to check out a professional card a little less than a couple of hours away from where I live. I had never had the pleasure of seeing Larry Holmes fight in person, and was not going to miss the opportunity.

    On that night, Holmes looked good to me. I remember looking at that shell of a man and thinking, " this is supposed to be the shell of a man?"

    Also on that night, Greg Page looked rather good knocking out Tim Witherspoon.

    The best fight of the night, however, was Billy Costello vs. Juan LaPorte. Those well past their prime guys gave it their all, and everyone was well entertained. This fight was worth every penny I spent to get in.

    My point is that even if it no longer matters, even if there are no future fights, even if two fighters are over a decade past their primes; evenly matched professionals can put on one hell of a show when willing. I wish Nelson and Fenech all the best, and look forward to a hell of a show.
     
  5. salsanchezfan

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    ............The question of whether Floyd could beat Arguello is debatable, but not really the matter at hand. Head-to-head matchups aside, Arguello proved himself far, far more than Floyd did there. Everybody talks about Floyd as such a great fighter (and I would agree), but he is typical of the modern fighter in that he continually jumped weight classes so much that he never left a truly indelible mark on any one weight class. He just never stayed in any one place long enough.

    Especially at 130, then, we need to consider how young and raw Mayweather was, and how inexperienced at junior lightweight. He was still finding his way then. At 130, it was all speed and flashy combinations but without all the education he compiled in all the years since. You can't compare that to what Arguello brought to the table at that time.
     
  6. booradley

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    Great Post!
     
  7. booradley

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    Hey Sanchez Fan -- check out your avatar with mine right under it. Pretty cool huh?
     
  8. salsanchezfan

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    .............Love me some Danny Lopez. A gentleman's gentleman, and one of the most exciting fighters in my memory. A rather frustratingly unappreciated fighter in this day and age, which saddens me. Nice to know he's doing well now and has all his faculties.

    He was all class, and as a fight fan, you had to love watching him. I still love the image of him handing his Indian headdress over to Sanchez after Sal stopped him the second time. A passing of the torch, and an incredibly dignified and timeless gesture. I'll always remember that.
     
  9. booradley

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    I can watch old tapes, and still get chills when I hear, "And still the WBC featherwieght champion of the world, Danny "Little Red" Lopeeeezzzz!"
     
  10. sweet_scientist

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    I think Flash Elorde and Kid Chocolate achieved most at the weight.

    Bringing in head to head ability, dominance etc. Alexis Arguello, Azumah Nelson, Julio Cesar Chavez and Floyd Mayweather are all in the picture.
     
  11. TBooze

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    Great call, I have him #2 behind The Kid from Culiacan.
     
  12. Lobotomy

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    But very much a fully appreciated fighter in HIS day and age, the one lower weight American boxing champion to have all his title defenses broadcast live on network television. In the inaugural issue of KO Magazine, he was the subject of the full color pull out poster, resplendent in title belt and headdress. Danny was THE champion for Sal to dethrone in order to become a household name in the United States.
    It seems that any great who retires from competition at just the right time becomes underappreciated. Tragedy and misfortune make for such better copy. For my money, Danny epitomizes more than anybody else what a retired champion should be, a rock solid citizen and character leading an exemplary life, true to himself, as he always was.
     
  13. PowerPuncher

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    Duran didnt do THAT much at 135 but gets no1 spot on his achievements above 135. Mayweather gets the same at 130. Anyway Mayweather may have done more at 130 than Arguello beating the following no1s and number2s:

    G Hernandez (linear and favourate)
    Corrales (favourate and number 2, many had him ahead of FLoyd)
    Chavez (number 1 contender, future 2 weight belt holder)
    Hernandez (future belt holder)

    Then he beat the following linear champs at higher weights: Hatton, Castillo, Judah, Delahoya, Baldomir, Corrales, Hernandez and plenty of ranked guys. Thats 7 Linear Champs. So he achieved more at higher weights, becoming a 5weight champ, went unbeaten and won his fights more ephatically and showed less weaknesses. Even at 130 Mayweather has less weaknesses than Arguello
     
  14. Ezzard

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    Sandy Saddler
    Tony Canzoneri

    IMO these 2 are the top fighters at this weight. I'd put Chavez 3rd.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    Henry Armstrong fought many of his fights around the 130lb limit too