Victor Conte:”What Billy Joe Saunders took is ten fold more powerful than what Canelo took”

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  1. Gennady

    Gennady Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But don’t get too upset guys, those who are understanding professional sport, knows that not just every fighter, but every athlete is in something extra.

    A.K.A coach Javier Mendez just said that Boxing and UFC should get rid of USADA and VADA because they are just cancelling big fights. I totally agree.
    People were upset about Canelo, anyone thinks Golovkin is clean? Hahhha

    This is the highest level, with the best doctors and chemistries.
     
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  2. SnatchBox

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    Silly Sounders botched it should've stuck with the tainted meat
     
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    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    uppercut_to_the_body Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not only that, but when you lay everything out it seems a bit fishy

    - Conte is the one who insisted on getting VADA Testing for this fight
    - Saunders fails the test for a substance that is legal in the UK. Does Conte know this beforehand?
    - Within a few hours of the failed test the news is leaked to Dan Rafael. Smear campaign part 1.
    - Within another day RING MAGAZINE have an interview with Conte about the test. Very quick response from Ring Magazine, who should really be neutral in this story. But only interview Conte, Andrades guy. No one on Saunders team interviewed. Smear campaign part 2.
     
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  5. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hummmmm! Victor wants the fight to be maded! He needs to get paid! Nothing wrong with that
     
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    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol. This forum doesn't know what it wants. Not so long ago everyone wants VADA testing as that's the #1 agency but as soon as a certain fighter gets popped suddenly VADA is corrupt?

    If this substance is legal in the UK as you claim (it is not) then you must believe that the nfl, nba, ncaa etc etc are all wrong as they all ban it. Now why do you think the huge organisation like the NFL ban players from taking this substance?

    Why have sprinters been banned after using this substance?

    The substance is not legal in the UK. Its outlawed in competition as it clearly enhances one's performance.

    The issue is the UK has a ridiculous loophole which seems to think a boxer is only in competition on fight night. Don't you think that's pretty damn stupid?

    Are you claiming that a boxer doesn't get the same performance enhancement which other athletes recieve?

    The most important thing in all of this is team Saunders would of been told what VADA deems as illegal and they still just ignored that.

    There is no excuse.
     
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    Somachenko The Matador Team Full Member

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    I’m sick of this dude being associated with anything to do with sports. It’s disgusting.
     
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    He might have an agenda but at the end of the day he's an expert and we're laymen. Unless someone can provide evidence from a credible source I think his word holds more weight than anyone else. That being said, the amount BJS tested for needs to be disclosed.
     
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    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Billy juice Saunders acts like a twat. No we know why it was roid rage.
     
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    Not just that, the substance is legal even with VADA, the problem comes with the interpretation of in-competition. In-competition is classed as, by WADA, UKAD and, as such, BBBofC, around the time of the fight - the day before and day of, or something. VADA have it as different. The substance is legal with all orgs out of competition, because it's a perfectly normal thing to encounter as a supplement.

    Conte is talking out his arse again. Clen is banned - at all times. It is viewed as a much bigger deal, clearly.
     
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    Billy juice nasal spray Saunders
     
  12. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Clenbuterol is banned at all times. What Saunders took - found, most likely, in the supplements many people on this very forum will have used unknowingly - is only prohibited in-competition. The experts have already determined he's talking ****.
     
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    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    It was a smart decision that Andrade hired Conte, the well known PED expert / supplier, so he won't fail any test while being juiced to the gills. :clap:
     
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    Can you provide sources? What specific expert said this? Also what supplements contain Oxilofrine?
     
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    Just reading the benefits of Clenbuterol and Oxilofrine, to me it seems like Oxilofrine is FAR more beneficial for a boxer. Would you disagree?