Billy joe Saunders fails drugs test

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by 2fast2fury, Sep 27, 2018.


  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    If that's the case it's weird it's only banned in competition by UKAD.
     
  2. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a ridiculous loophole. To say boxers are only in competition on fight night is bogus.
     
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  3. majypoo

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    What's the point in UKAD doing random testing if they only count the fight night? makes no sense.
     
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  4. Holler

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    For everyone else who don't have a clue

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  5. Holler

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    They're not saying that though, not in those terms. They are saying there's a difference between drugs that have a long term impact, steroids etc and those which have an instant impact. The former cannot be allowed any time, but it may be fair to allow the latter outside of competition because the athlete isn't getting an unfair advantage, other than unblocking their nose in this instance.

    Again, it's not that they only count the fight night, but that there are different testing criteria pertaining to each period as above.

    I think one of the big problems here is the confusion created by VADA adopting different procedures to WADA, UKAD and USADA.
    http://www.fighthype.com/news/article19788.html
     
  6. Scissors

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    I disagree. From what I read it helps you train harder etc. So if billy is using this whilst training it’s gona make him better come fight night. It stinks. A banned substance should be a banned substance no matter what when it comes to sports. Athletes are also given a list of things they can and can’t have. I believe there’s also a database they can put a products name in and it tells them whether it’s got any banned substances or whatever. So I’m not buying the nasal spray story.
     
  7. Holler

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    So I'm no sports scientist so I'm going by what WADA say. That's a big organisations full of scientists that have to put decisions to peer review and come up with a consensus that can then be applied across international borders. They have looked at the problem and balanced the needs for fairness against the need to stop cheating and come up with this distinction between in and out of competition.

    How have you come up with this alternative system and have you thought what the ramifications of it would be? I can think of several as a layman having given it 30 seconds of thought...
     
  8. Scissors

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    My alternative solution is:

    A banned substance is a banned substance.
    Any medication you take you enter in to a database and obviously in medical situations you get an exemption. So if BJS or anyone else would have entered in “vicks nasal spray” he would get an exemption if traces of “drug A” appear in his system. If he or anyone else doesn’t notify the system once he’s took it then they get banned.

    It’s not hard, unreasonable or unfeasible.
     
  9. Holler

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    But you accept the difference between in and out of competition?
     
  10. Scissors

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    No I definitely don’t. If you’re training for a fight in a few weeks then you’re definitely in competition to me.
     
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  11. BXNG101

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    Yes it is ridiculous. Who tests AJ btw? Is it UKAD?
     
  12. Holler

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    So the world anti doping code works much like the system you want, theteth a prohibited list which applies absolutely, in and out of competition. HiwHowe, there's another category of substances which can be allowed outside competition.

    On my phone so can't really quote from it but can be found via https://ukad.org.uk/resources/document/world-anti-doping-code
     
  13. Puroresu_Fan

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    This ain't no nasal spray like vicks to clear up the nose.

    When the NFL say no player can use Oxilofrine at anytime doesn't that tell you there is an issue with the supplement.
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....2013/jul/15/tyson-gay-asafa-powell-oxilofrine

    What are its effects?
    Oxilofrine is thought to increase adrenaline production, boosting endurance, focus, alertness and heart rate and increasing oxygenation of the blood.

    That clearly helps when one is training for a fight.
     
  14. BXNG101

    BXNG101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah. **** off, nasal spray my ass. Hope he gets refused a boxing licence.
     
  15. Heisenberg

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    So, BJS joins the Ingle gym, suddenly discovers both the form, fitness levels and physique of his life and then oops fails a test due to a nasal spray... w@nker of the highest order
     
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