More ‘skilled’: Naseem Hamed or Deontay Wilder

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  1. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lanky ???

    Hamed was 5ft 4 inches ...
     
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    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oh have a day off with this nonsense. Styles werent similar, sure they both used athletic ability but that's about it. Wilder isn't fit to even touch Nas' boots, let alone lace them
     
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  3. mstar

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    Hamed was light years ahead of wilder. People forget hamed was great boxer mover when younger and ingle made him and teach him fundamentals really well.
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    That's funny... the last.time I viewed hameds fights he was all over the place. If you ran a boxing class you wouldnt be teaching people to box like that.

    Right guys lets all practice the following combination:
    Look away from the opponent, dart around, Ali shuffle, and lateral jab. Proceed to disco dance and make a funny face.

    40 seconds lads keep going..
     
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  5. BoxingABC1

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    no, you're right in that aspect, you would never teach someone who came into a gym to fight like the Hameds, Alis, Jones Jrs of this world because 1). they're very unorthodox and 2). you can't teach that. the question wasn't "whos the most fundamentally sound", it was who is the most skilled, and Nas is so far more skilled than Deontay that it didn't even arrant this thread.
     
  6. Aydamn

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    They were unorthodox precisely because of their physical gifts no other reason and advantages.

    I believe fundamentally sound and skill are somewhat connected?

    I mean you see a guy on the street getting.into a boxing stance, lead jab out and ready... throwing composed boxing combinations... you would say "yeah thst guy has some skill"

    Then you see hamed style and... "that guy is just winging it"

    They both had crazy athleticism but Deontay stuck to his fundamentals.. displayed it in every fight... worked the jab and the cross... laser focus.

    So thats why I give this to Deontay... because Hamed did the "wing it.on atheletiscm" routine so much in his fights he probably forgot his boxing fundamentals and it cost him later on.

    Had he gone the AJ route and mixed in proper stance, proper counters etc he would have survived a lot longer... these are the skills and fundementals that will take you further in your career.

    So Deontay has been using that... but then he turns into Hamed when hes opponent is hurt.
     
  7. BoxingABC1

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    they way they use their natural ability IS a skill.

    but they're random people on the street, i wouldn't look at a boxer who did that and think "yeah, they're skilled fighters".

    There's a difference between Hamed's improvisation and Wilder's. Wilder's improvisations are like his name, wild. Whereas Hamed had more panache and pure skill. i don't even think Wilder has good fundamentals either.
     
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    I usually agree with you ,Jack, but this is a bunch of ****.
     
  9. Salty Dog

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    Nobody in the heavyweight division is anywhere near as good a boxer as M.A.B. was so it ain't something that Wilder will ever have to worry about.
     
  10. ipitythefool

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    Naz way more skilled.

    But even more of an idiot than Wilder.

    And now about twice the weight of Wilder.
     
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    Naz was a harder puncher than him too, and no I don't mean he hit harder P4P than him. I mean he hit harder, period.
     
  13. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The prince based on boxing ability, his signature low guard was only possible because of his outstanding footwork. he could punch at any range and throw from any angle, and had a devastating uppercut at close range; a decent cv and could of been an ATG if it wasnt for over confidence and lifestyle away from the gym a talent borderline wasted, could of done so much more. Lineal featherweight champion, hall of fame; probably greatest british featherweight of all time.
    The similarities they share are that they both throw long range bombs and hold a low guard; which is probably the only reason this question was asked..
     
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    Not even close. Watch Hamed-Bungu.
     
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  15. DoubleJ

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    Nas foot work was leagues better; balance, ability to move in any direction at any time. His odd angles were largely due to good foot work.

    Wilder's feet and hands are way too far apart. He's not on good balance a lot of the time. His odd angles are due to poor fundamentals.

    I despised Nas, but he takes this easily.
     
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