Linear vs Lineal

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Wig, Oct 2, 2018.


  1. superstarstu

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    David Haye thought it as well all tho I think he referred to it as dartitus , he probably doesn't know what he's on about either ! Don't know if your familiar with the yips are dartitus you may not like golf or be British.
     
  2. Twentyman

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    I’ve heard about it, mate, but don’t know too much about it. I’m aware they call it dartitus in the darts. It’s some unexplained phenomena involving motor skills isn’t it.
     
  3. superstarstu

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    Yeah basically knocks the timing out cos you can't release at the right time.
     
  4. Gomo

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    Lewis was "the man" who retired then Vlad became "the man"

    Fury beat klit to become the man who beat the man but consequently retired

    Therefore didnt joshua take over being "the man" by aquiring the titles fury had in the same way klit did from lewis?

    So fury was the lineal champ but he retired so by default doesnt he give his lineal status up?

    Joshua is the man imo
     
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  5. Momus

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    I'd be genuinely interested to read any credible research into the prevalence of the yips in boxing, or indeed any combat sports.

    In the absence of that, I'd be inclined to think that it's just Haye talking complete shite.

    Timing and reflexes dull with age, which often contributes to fighters becoming gun-shy, which is pretty rational when you think about it. It would seem a real stretch though to associate any of that with the yips, which is generally considered to be both involuntary and irrational. The yips also isn't something that you just "get over"; it's a long road back to rebuild technique. Bernhard Langer for example had to change grips several times, and started using a long putter rather than a conventional one.

    If Klitschko had the yips against Fury, it's highly unlikely that he'd then be trading bombs with Joshua with no noticeable remodelling of technique. The simplest explanation is the most likely; he was a declining fighter, not known for taking risks, fighting a rangier opponent where he couldn't get set to throw punches and establish his timing. That's not the yips; it's called getting outboxed.
     
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  6. Twentyman

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    Bang on, that. It’s worth pointing out that Klitschko didn’t even attribute his loss to the yips. He admits that he didn’t enough, and that’s because he couldn’t. Fury was too awkward for him, and made him pay with the jab.
     
  7. Wig

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    the yips. jesus.

    I've heard just about every pathetic excuse spouted by matchroom clones but that one is a new one. Well done mate.
     
  8. S.K

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    Be quiet pal.

    Your clearly not stupid, but your acting like your thick as ****.

    Also, take your tongue out of fury’s arse would you, hate people like yourself who are clearly bias and can’t see things clearly due to it.

    1. Fury definitely did not beat the man who beat the man who beat the man. This made up BS ‘lineal’ is flawed as it just randomly starts again when people feel like it to assist their own agendas. Some AJ fan boys could argue AJ is now lineal as Fury retired for 2.5 years, and has gone on to cement himself as a clear #1 in the division, beating consecutive top 5 fighters in the division. These are facts.
    2. Not a chance in hell could anyone with a 3 digit IQ argue either fury or wilder have a better CV than AJ when either one of them wins. It simple isn’t up for debate.
    3. Now, Tyson fury, it was nice talking to you but haven’t you got some rehearsals to do for your next press conference?
     
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  9. Hattonmad

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    I love Tyson Fury! Couldn't care less what people think about that. I also respect AJ and his achievements. That's the difference between me and AJ fanboys.

    Hate is a strong word. Let that hate go mate. Life will be much easier!

    I don't care about the 'lineal' tag all that much. It's a good marketing tool. I care about no.1 status. Are you saying Wladimir wasn't no.1 when Fury beat him? You can't be. Nobody could. AJ never beat a no.1 guy.

    Point no.2 is funny because there's more posters saying Fury would be no.1 in the division after a win v Wilder than not. We can't all be thick.

    Quality over quantity pal, quality over quantity.
     
  10. GTFUP

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    Doesn’t linear and lineal both have a line in it? If so then Fury is 100% the line champ! End of F story!!!
     
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  11. S.K

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    Oh don’t worry about me pal, I’m the happiest man on this forum, amazing job, amazing son, beautiful partner, healthy baby due any day now, big house, amazing family, 4 holidays a year. Don’t worry about me and my hate pal, I hate bias people in all walks of life, they lack integrity and decency, not my type of people.

    ‘More posters’ saying fury would be number 1? Haha, are you joking me here? What’s your sample size, about 4 people who liked your post? Come on, think about what you just said. Actually say it back to yourself.

    ‘4 posters think fury will be the new #1 if he beats wilder’ see how stupid that sounds?

    The clear #1 in a division can’t lose their position when #2 and #3 fight. It doesn’t work that way. Especially when #1 is active and fighting top, top opposition.

    Who ever wins will cement themselves as #2. That’s all they will do until they fight AJ, then that’s their opportunity to get the #1 spot.

    Why ask me am I saying vlad wasn’t number 1 when Fury beat him, when I didn’t say that or allude it? Such a dick head comment to make.
     
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  12. Hattonmad

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    Congratulations, well done mate. Though only an insecure man would feel the need to list off his 'achievements' on an internet forum, to a faceless profile.

    Just let go of the hate chief. It's another insecurity you're harbouring there.

    I'm simply reading the forum and seeing knowledgeable posters acknowledge that Fury is rightfully no.1 with a win over Wilder. This is a man who retired as no.1 in the division, never losing that status in the ring, coming back three years later to beat an unbeaten champion in the states. At worst he's got a solid argument for regaining the no.1 spot. At best he's undoubtedly no.1. The latter is what I genuinely believe, having given it a lot of thought and assessment.

    As stated previously, I respect AJ and his achievements. But I go for quality over quantity. Fury's win over Klit > AJ's win over Klit. Fury's win over Wilder (If it happens) > AJ's win over Parker.

    I asked are you saying Wlad wasn't no.1 in the division because you said Fury isn't 'The man who beat the man'. He clearly is.

    Your pointless name calling is another weakness. For somebody so successful and happy, you don't half come across insecure and weak.
     
  13. superstarstu

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    The yips can come and go sportsmen have beaten it completely and it would be naïve to think it doesn't occur in all sports it just happens to be highly noticeable in golf and darts , something was up with Wlad that night the shots where there to be thrown on plenty of occasions but he just didn't throw them , must have seen Wlad fight over 30 times and that was by far the worst he ever was , Fury must have known it also cos I've never seen an ******* fallout as quickly as Tyson's did at the prospect of a rematch.
     
  14. carlingeight

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    C'mon mate he is clearly just saying the word wrong. And nobody is that bothered about it because we rarely take the 'lineal' title too seriously.

    It's like Frank Warren saying Chris 'Eubanks'. That's not his surname no matter how long Warren has been in the game..
     
  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Check his user name
    Loved Hatton and his style yada yada yada
    Probably back wicky when he took the **** out of witters awkward style calling it boring
    Yet because fury is friends with wicky
    Wicky thinks tysons boxings great hence this poster does
    The standards are double your wasting your breath pal resistance is futile
     
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