Will Usyk dare to go toe to toe with the bomber?

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  1. kojak

    kojak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree Usyk is very very clever. He will just do the jabs and light shots, if the opponent over commits then he tends to counter quite hard, gets backs out then just reverts to doing jabs and light shots at a high tempo. It's basically his ABC strategy and there's no need for him to adjust unless he needs to (Breidis fight).
     
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  2. TrustTheUniverse

    TrustTheUniverse I am feel. I am very feel banned Full Member

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    He was very ready. And he knocked him spark out in 8 rounds.:sisi1 Mentally Usyk is 10/10 :sisi1
     
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  3. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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  4. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    it was a bad night man, Tony had him right where he wanted him just couldn't keep the energy levels up
     
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  5. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Hahahahahahahaha!!!!


    Holy ****!!!
     
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  6. TrustTheUniverse

    TrustTheUniverse I am feel. I am very feel banned Full Member

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    LOL! Usyk beats Bellew 100 times out of 100.
    Just like you can't stop wanking, Usyk is addicting to winning
     
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  7. VicMcCoy

    VicMcCoy Member Full Member

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    Usyk is just better, not hard to admit.
     
  8. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Went very much how I expected - Bellew maybe having a bit more success in the early rounds than I expected but ultimately expected Bellew to have his foot flat in the first half of the fight then Usyk start putting his foot down as Bellew started finding he couldn't maintain the effort he needed to apply to keep competitive with Usyk
     
  9. destruction

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    What was more a failure.

    This prediction or his No Fap challenge.
     
  10. TrustTheUniverse

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  11. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Jennings - Perez bout was a lot closer in the scorecards and in actual fact, than the Briedis - Perez bout was. This is just a fact! Jennings arguably ONLY won due to a point deduction against Perez. Otherwise, their match was that close.

    Meanwhile, Briedis comfortably beat Perez and in more convincing fashion. Only Povetkin ever beat Perez more convincingly than Briedis did. Otherwise, nobody else, even at heavyweight, beat Perez more convincingly or even as convincingly as Briedis did.

    Haye has ALWAYS been overrated! So Bellew supposedly being able to beat, even a prime Haye means nothing to me. Nor is it super impressive to me. But fact is, Bellew needed 2 fights to finally beat Haye convincingly. And in the first fight, even whilst Haye was injured, Bellew still needed double digit rounds to inconclusively finish off a one legged David Haye in a fight he was arguably losing before Haye suffered his injury. So unless you're dominantly and conclusively beating an injured opponent in one fight (not needing two fights to get it done), then it doesn't look very good in your chances at beating the same opponent if he was in his prime and was 100% healthy. The same way Bellew's chances at beating a prime, 100% healthy Haye doesn't look very good.

    Makabu is a better puncher than Gassiev or Brieidis, based on what evidence? Or did you just pull that STATEMENT out of thin air. Don't state opinions as if they were facts. Would've and could've don't impress me. I don't give boxers credit for what you think they would've done in a fantasy world. I give them credit for feats they have actually shown. And so far, Makabu has shown inferior feats than Briedis or Gassiev.

    Your opinions about the cruiser weight division, are just that, opinions. Cruiser weight is no more 'mediocre' than heavyweight. Cruiser weight is for in shape boxers. Most heavyweights today, if they decided to lose unnecessary fat, would also be cruiser weights. Guys like Andy Ruiz Jr, Alexander Povetkin, Dillian Whyte, Dereck Chisora, Joseph Parker and etc. If they had the discipline to stay in shape and to not carry as much extra unnecessary body fat and weight as they do, then they would all be cruiser weights too.

    So I don't see this superiority of the heavyweight division over the cruiser weight division that you so adamantly insist.

    Anthony Joshua's (the number 1 heavyweight with the most belts today) best opponents (outside of Wladimir Klitschko) have been Alexander Povetkin, Dillian Whyte and Joseph Parker. All three who can make cruiser weight if they didn't carry extra body fat.

    There are only a handful of NATURAL heavyweights that couldn't make the cruiser weight division. So if anything, it's the heavyweight division that is severely lacking and weak. Considering many out of shape and fat guys are in the top of the division like Jarrell Miller, Joseph Parker, Dillian Whyte, Dereck Chisora and etc. Whilst most cruiser weights don't look fat or out of shape.
     
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  12. FastSmith7

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    What are you talking about???????? Tony went all out in 4 rounds, Usyk applied the physical and mental pressure, Bellew threw the most punches he ever threw in the first 4 rounds and he was constantly moving his upper body so obviously he gassed out, Usyk knew that and he was biding his time, waiting for him to tire and he did, just like Povetkin gassed out vs AJ going all out early on, stop being biased and deluded.
     
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  13. It's Ovah

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    Mate, shut up and learn a bit of class.
     
  14. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both statements are gross exaggerations. Povetkin, Whyte, and Parker aren't natural cruiserweights. Admittedly they could all be in much better condition, since I've been a major critic of all three. However, Whyte at around 220-230 lbs is a very good weight range for him as well as for Parker. Povetkin would've been a lot more effective at 210-215 instead of coming in over 220lbs. You can't judge a heavyweight merely on their height, but instead on their frame. Povetkin height-wise isn't much taller than Lebdev, but frame wise Povetkin carries much more muscle in the legs, back, and shoulders.


    Dillian Whyte 6'2" 230 lbs
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    At 230 lbs Whyte is a lot more mobile and can fight at a higher pace.

    Whyte back in 2009 fighting Joshua. I believe Whyte's weight was around 224 lbs for this fight.
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    Also, just as a note I don't believe Whyte's official age. I think he's at least 4-5 years older than they say he is.

    Joseph Parker 6'3" 228 lbs
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    At 228 lbs Parker got better leverage on his shots, didn't gas as easy, and was more defensively responsible. When his started letting his weight go over 235+ his ring performance suffered.

    Povetkin 6'0" 219 lbs
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    I would've preferred Povetkin to consistently come in around 210-215, but even consistently coming in at 219lbs rather than showing up at 225+ and even 230 lbs, since at 225+ he's useless against top fighters. He would've never got dropped by Price if he showed up in better shape and he would stopped Chagaev if would've showed up at 215-220 rather than 229 lbs.
     
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  15. VicMcCoy

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    This is a really good post and a very interesting read. Out of interest, what makes you say that about Whyte’s age? Haven’t thought of that before