UPDATED P4P LIST

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Chicano, Nov 12, 2018.


  1. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At this point I think people just put Spence on their list because everyone else is doing it. He has 1 good win. Against a guy who also only has 1 good win. How is that p4p worthy?
     
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  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Everybody hating that Canelo is the p4p king!!! Lol
     
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  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    If Canelo isn’t ****, neither is GGG.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    1.Canelo
    2.Usyk
    3.Loma
    4.Joshua
    5.Crawford
     
  5. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    1. Lomachenko
    2. Crawford
    3. Usyk
    4. Rungvisai
    5. GGG
    6. Inoue
    7. Spence
    8. Mikey Garcia
    9. Joshua
    10. Leo Santa Cruz

    No place in my top 10 for a ginger diva and tainted beef addict who role plays as DLH's gimp.
     
  6. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes i forgot Leo Santa Cruz, I would put him 10 over Nietes

    LsC has quality Ws and only 1 loss
     
  7. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I wouldn't put Canelo #1, somewhere from 3-6 is ok

    He can climb if he beats a legit 168 like maybe Callum Smith or Zurdo...

    Or even a 160 like Jacobz
     
  8. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Spence has 2 quality Ws over Lamont Peterson & Brookz

    IMO P4P is a mix of skills & resume

    Spence had tremendous skill but resume a lil lacking thats why only cracks top 10
     
  9. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you made a PFP list just to spite Canelo. LOL
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Eh, not awful, here's mine...

    Top 15 P4P List

    1. Vasyl Lomachenko
    2. Oleksandr Usyk
    3. Canelo Alvarez
    4. Gennedy Golovkin
    5. Terence Crawford
    6. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
    7. Naoya Inoue
    8. Manny Pacquiao
    9. Keith Thurman
    10. Anthony Joshua
    11. Roman Gonzalez
    12. Kazuto Ioka
    13. Leo Santa Cruz
    14. Mikey Garcia
    15. Errol Spence Jr.
     
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  11. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Lomachenko
    2. Inoue
    3. Crawford
    4. Usyk
    5. GGG/Canelo
    6. Rungvisai
    7. Joshua
    8. Mikey Garcia/Spence
    9. Isaac Dogboe
    10.Leo Santa Cruz/Carl Frampton
    Fury gets added when he beats Wilder.
     
  12. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    + PED's
     
  13. Dario Argento

    Dario Argento The exotic Waitress banned Full Member

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    Change Canelo with Golovkin and I’ll like the comment :deal:
     
  14. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most people neglect resume on this forum and it's just not right...

    How can people put Crawford top when he hasn't fought anybody? Would people not agree that what you see when you watch a fighter is equal to their resume? Yes. Therefore, how can people justify not having AJ in their lists and then include Crawford at Number 1 (I have no problem having him in the top 5 somewhere, just not top of the pile) and people like Mikey Garcia, Spence up there who haven't fought a fly. It's ridiculous.

    I do appreciate titles but it only goes so far when they've fought nobodies to claim those titles..

    Mikey fought nobodies. Spence fought a man with one eye (Brook) and a smaller mirror image of himself (Peterson). And you're telling me that Joshua hasn't looked as good against bums as these guys have. Brawn should be treated the same as Brain. As long as you win, you win. You either look impressive or you don't. Has Spence? Yes. Has Mikey? Yes. Has Joshua? ABSOLUTELY YES!!! But we'll just forget about Joshua because we think an olympic gold medallist is average at best....

    If Crawford's 'skill rating' was rated out of 10, and we gave it a 10..and his resume was given a rating of 7, then that gives him a score of 17/20. If Joshua's 'skill rating' was rated out of 10, and we gave it a 7...and his resume was given a rating of 10, then that gives him a score of 17/20. And you can't argue too much with what I've just said, can you? You might alter those ratings within a margin of 1 either way, but I'm pretty much correct.

    Now let's look at Spence and Garcia shall we? If Spence's 'skill rating' was rated out of 10 and we gave it a 8...and his resume was given a rating of 6, then that gives him a score of 14/20. If Garcia's 'skill rating' was rated out of 10, and we gave it a 9...and his resume was given a rating of 6, then that gives him a score of 15/20. Again, I'm very close to how other people would rate that, am I not?

    Callum Smith has done more than the two of them when it comes to resume. One win over Groves proves that. And you can't say he is significantly lesser skilled than Mikey and Spence. So why is Spence in that list while Smith is not? Neither should be in the list really, but Smith deserves to be in the list more than Spence does.

    That means we get a conclusion that a lot of the people on this forum need to grasp. Resume is equal to 'skill'. It makes no sense to have people like Spence in these lists, while excluding people like Joshua's, who's resume more than makes up for the lack of 'skill' as some people claim. Joshua must be in that top 10. Otherwise your list is complete rubbish. Rant over.
     
  15. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a tricky one regarding GGG. As far as I'm concerned he won both fights vs Canelo. I assume most think he will lose a rubber match due to his age and Canelo improving / staying the same.

    Anyway here is my list:

    1. Lomachenko (Without question)
    2. Crawford
    3. Usyk
    4. GGG
    5. Canelo
    6. Inoue
    7. Rungvisia
    8. Garcia
    9. Spence Jnr
    10. Linares (great display against Loma, no shame in defeat).

    If Linares had to come out I would put in Leo Santa Cruz. Joshua will enter if he beats Wilder and Fury. If he defeats Usyk in style he will be in my top 5.
     
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2018