American Boxers Punch Drunk

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  1. Jayme Chavez

    Jayme Chavez Member Full Member

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    His speech is fine, he just has a mixture of a Jamaican and British accent that makes him hard to understand.
     
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    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    what about the mex like angulo and siri ,barrera and El Travieso
     
  3. the factor

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    It's very sad to listen to Meldrick Taylor and Terry Norris speak these days. Shane Mosely who had one of the best chins is heading down the same road. The human body was never designed to take debilitating blows to the head. 90% of professional boxers end up with at least some degree of brain damage.
     
  4. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Glass brains
     
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    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Brits mostly have glass jaws they get ktfo without absorbing much punishment , plus those british stoppages lol
     
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    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know he has an accent, but while it may not be punch drunk he definitely has something up with his speeds which is nothing to do with accent
     
  7. bw51

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    i'v lived and trained in both countries for an ample amount of time, i also noticed this before..here was my observation

    -american fighters usually have way more amateur fights than UK fighters
    --> but why aren't Mexican and EE fighters as punchy, so I moved I furthered my analysis

    it also comes down to gym etiquette

    --> UK trainers are very into safety making sure that guys don't get into unnecessary gym wars, especially when it comes to how amateur fighters are cultivated. The usually train in teams and boxing clubs and ease into sparring.

    --> in the US, it is very common for Amateur fighters to follow a pro routine, 1-2-1 with their trainer. There is less camaraderie amongst sparring partners and you find it quite common that fighters get into gym wars all the way to the pros.

    i don't know if i am right, bc i haven't really seen how training is in other countries and someone like ahmir khan who has been battered from pillar to post seems to still fire on cylinders. so i am just as confused as the next guy...
     
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    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch is without doubt a megalomaniac. I didn't even think that was under dispute.
     
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    Probably because some good American boxers don't know when to retire, and believe their own hype. James Toney, for a good example. America is a big place made up of fifty states and a fighter with a big reputation an always find a commission to licence him and a bunch of followers to kiss his ass.
    In a smaller country with a single boxing authority, it's not quite as easy to kid yourself and others.
     
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    I haven't trained in America, but I have trained in a few gyms in the UK. You're right about the comaraderie in UK gyms but I've found that there's always at least one guy in every gym who's trying to knock you out in sparring. Also some spars turn into wars and get a bit heated. I don't have answers, just wanted to add what I've seen.
     
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    No. Not at all.

    Brain damage is universal. So is getting punched in the head.
     
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    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those 'British stoppages' you mock are a result of the Micheal Watson and Gerald McClellan tragedies (among others), which occurred in British rings in the 90's.

    It's ironic, the thing you mock, became a thing in the first place, to prevent from happening again, something far worse than slurred words.
     
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    The U.K. fighters know when to call it a day.

    The likes of Ali, Bowe and Toney were already slurring heavily when they took their last few fights.
     
  14. NoNeck

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    What about Bobby Chacon?
     
  15. Jayme Chavez

    Jayme Chavez Member Full Member

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    Could u name me some boxers born and raised outside of the U.S. that ended up punchy?
     
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