Who is Barry Jones talking about here?

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  1. sjp17

    sjp17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some fighters operate without a manager i believe, probably the journeymen fighters dont even have a proper trainer i would imagine.
     
  2. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    No. Your not allowed yo box without a manager.
    A lot of JM just pick up a second at the shows, some come with their own trainers
     
  3. Judge 1

    Judge 1 Member Full Member

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    I know the Ingles take 35% which is disgusting imo
     
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  4. krb

    krb Active Member Full Member

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    All have to have a manager but some are self managed. Need to be a licence holder for more than three years to get a manager licence a self manage
     
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  5. defcon2000

    defcon2000 New Member Full Member

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    didn't know fat mick was a manager as well as a promoter
     
  6. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    Your bottom appears a bit raw - you been to see Joe G again?
     
  7. Canning

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    Hello Kell
     
  8. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    They're entitled to it under BBBC contract
     
  9. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    Tbh I think trainers are underpaid. It should be a better % than 10.
    Iv heard of trainers who have earned near on f.all after training fighters.
    Standard 4rds after ticket deal and sold about 100 tickets the fighter walks away with about a G.
    100 quid of that for 3/ 4 months training a kid sometimes 5 times a week for a couple of hours. The trainer also has to get to the gym, fuel etc
     
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  10. big moose

    big moose Active Member Full Member

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    IIRC Brendan viewed the Wincobank gym as a community project. He supposedly only started training boxing as a vicar asked for help controlling local feral children. He trained lots of no-hopers for peanuts to keep them off the streets, and made his "name" fighters visit prisons and schools. His slightly high fees were a mean of paying for that - the tiny number of successes subsidised his efforts to help a greater number of ordinary folk gain self-respect through boxing. Mind you, I have no idea if Dominic shares those ideal!
     
  11. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Fair points but surely the fighter pays the trainer a small sum for every session like the average Joe does for a bit of 1-2-1 training after work?
     
  12. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Surely depends on the purse and level of input, work and time put in. And each relationship is unique. Some trainers put up fighters and pretty much parent them, whereas others may not be so astute and helpful.

    Paddy Fitzpatrick comes to mind not knowing which round Groves was even in against Jack. He was more clueless than a concussed Bellew after the Usyk fight, and wouldn't have deserved an example of £100,000 of a 1 mil pot - just putting the figure out there as 10%. Ironic, as Groves left Booth over money, who he looked fantastic, confident and a world beater under. True that you pay for quality at times, but I reiterate that each situation and dynamic is unique, so a flat set rate is not really applicable. And while trainers put in a great effort they are not risking their health, reputation or future in the same ways that the fighters are. Could argue in cases for more than and less than 10% both ways.
     
  13. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's all relative though. That 10% becomes pretty damn good if you train a very good fighter. 10% of a fighter earning hundreds of thousands or millions per fight isn't bad at all.

    Fighters have to pay managers, promoters cut, training expenses. That's 50% of the purse done.
     
  14. cam2010

    cam2010 Member Full Member

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    Fighters do not always pay 10% of purse to trainer they can negotiate a set amount for big purses. Managers on the other hand want there %
     
  15. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    I reckon Booth. Apparently he is the most expensive in the UK.