You've not really made an attempt to explain yourself. I think it's very logical to say an event 1/10th the size will only carry a fraction of the cost. Nowhere am I saying they should be proud of selling half the arena, and I'm still not convinced that's how it will end up. All the euro posters on here are still full of hate, but it looks like the likes these US promoters and managers are laughing all the way to the bank. Wilder isn't even close to being Haymon's #1 draw!
This is true. Fish eyes might be full to the brim with crap, but judging by the seating plan it does seem like they've done a boat load of tickets at insane prices.
I get and fully understand how fans can be split into camps and favorites based on which fighter you 'support' just like football is tribal boxing can be... BUT why any set of fan would celebrate the fact they leave an arena half full because they are flessing fans with over inflated prices is beyond me!!
It's not about celebrating or being a fan of any side. This is just a collection of facts that fly in the face of the propaganda the Euro posters on here have been saying for months. I would prefer it if all tickets were a tenner and they gave free flights to LA. But then I wasn't the one saying this event would be a total flop. It seems now the euros are pivoting their stance from saying it won't make any money, to saying it will only make money in a non-ethical fashion. One un-befitting of the benevolent Matchroom lol.
I can't say much about it because i know **** all about what goes on behind the scenes. Of course the upkeep of an larger venue takes more manpower and resources, but i don't think it's that drastic of a difference. All I can think of is from my work at nightclubs. One place I worked at was 3 times the size of my current place of employment, yet both required the same amount of people to work there. Someone else also made a good point on more people = more food and drink revenue. And trust me! Those numbers are massive. Of course they are laughing all the way to the bank. They put forth ridiculous prices and some people actually paid. Enough people paid for them to make a solid profit. And who is a bigger draw for PBC? Because Wilder has the biggest TV numbers. And if not, then he is definitely among the top 3.
Seems like a lot of feelings and not a lot of facts. an event a fraction of the size will definitely have a fraction of the cost. If you think that gets off-set by the profit on food and drink sales, can you please provide some guestimate numbers. Also, some indication that Hearn even gets a cut of that money would be nice as many event promoters don't. I said Wilder isn't Haymon's top draw fighter, not PBC. Even so, Manny Pacquaio is a PBC fighter now. He's a pretty big draw IMO. Haymon's main focus will be about getting him and Floyd together again. Wilder is down on the list.
What part is nonsense? Do you not believe this fight has sold multi-millions of dollars in tickets? Judging by the prices and the tickets sold, it would seem it has. A good walk up crowd and the gate ends up being relatively huge.
I would assume its correct that its done a few million in gate. I doubt whether its the 2nd highest grossing at staples? Especially that coming from ol fish eyes himself. I am very skeptical however about any comments about figures that come from anyone like Warren/Finkel/Espinoza as I believe they are unlikely to be truthful as this event isnt as "massive" as theyd like to believe. I anticipate a huge damage control campaign to start
Nonsense. The insurance will be in place for a full arena. It's not like holiday insurance that you get in the airport before you set off. You may have fewer staff but barley enough to really affect profits. It's a bit of a travesty this fight isnt sold out and it's all down to greed.
Nah your way off with your estimations. Firstly Joshua charges more for floor seats in the UK than Wilder/Fury. But lets look at previous gates of other fighters and compare. Mayweather/Berto ticket prices were very similar to this fight between $125-1500 USD, that fight sold 12,947 tickets and did a live gate of $10 mill USD which is a bit less revenue than Joshua did vs Wlad. There's apparently 17K tickets for this event based on the Mayweather/Berto numbers if this fight only sells half it's tickets that's $6.56 mill USD, so well short of the $10.5 mill Joshua/Wlad did at the gate. Having said that, that's clearly still going to be a record for Wilder in terms of live gate, he'll not have gotten close to that much before.
like any tickets anywhere go to the fights near the time the undercard fights are on someone will be selling cheap tickets outside, but make sure they are legit tickets. Today people can print up anything.
Could he not mean second highest boxing event at the staples. There hasn't been much there in the last 10 years.
I'm pretty sure CA laws dictate security is proportional to capacity. It has been a while since I was in the music scene, but that was the case in that regard. Now, you could probably send a few low paid staff home early if a few sections are empty, but that's peanuts.
Again, just passing along what I know from inside AEG (the operator of Staples), the floor seats are moving but many are being discounted. The $200-$500 seats sold out or nearly so almost immediately. There initially were no plans to open the upper bowl, but people kept wanting tickets but weren't going to pay the insane floor prices so AEG and the promoter released a batch of $75-$125 tickets that also went quickly. All in all, it looks like this fight would have sold out had the promoter been realistic and priced the floor seats similarly to Leo Santa Cruz vs. Mares, even if the other tickets were more expensive than that fight.
