The parallels of Marciano and Wilder

Ridiculous. Wilder was just outboxed every minute of every round. That never happened to Marciano. The piece does a disservice to Marciano who actually turned his disadvantages in height and reach into strengths. Wilder doesn’t do anything of the such and has every physical advantage. He loads up for power shots. That’s all and his balance is terrible.
Teddy Atlas was 100 percent correct and the only one telling the truth. Too many of these media ppl want everyone to be their friend so they sugar coat everything. Their is no hard or in depth analysis from these guys

 

Parallels between Marciano and Wilder:

Both fight for a living.
Both have five fingers on each hand and five toes on each foot.
Neither have ever, to my knowledge, been in my kitchen.
Both are American citizens.

And that is about all that I can think of.

Marciano is one of the greatest ever, with two of the most important records in heavyweight boxing, wins against legends, and a title reign in which he relentlessly fought the best.

Wilder is a fraud who fights mostly medically unfit fighters, supplemented with pastry chefs and substitute school teachers (literally).

 

The only parallels between Wilder and Marciano I can see is that they both have two arms and two legs.

 

Kellerman is a clown

 

I would say that he is a lot more like Max Baer to be honest.

 

I agree but Baer was funnier.

 

This. I see the parallel too.

 

I never really thought of that before but Baer and Wilder both have two of the deadliest right hands in HW history. Murderous punchers with the 6.

I don't agree with the Marciano comparisons at this point but I will give Wilder credit for how he carried himself in the 12th. He was being outboxed by Fury the whole fight but never quit trying to find a way to win. He behaved like a heavyweight champion and went out swinging to try and save his belt.

 

He really didn't need to short of being ko'd he was safe.Fury couldn't have won on one judges card even if he had stayed upright the whole fight . Boxing judging in the US stinks!

 

Well Marciano is like Chavez and Wilder is like Randall bailey.

I don't really think the comparison is very valid. Marciano was a consistent workhorse, Wilder is an explosive "burst" fighter.

 

I think the knockdown saved Wilder from defeat on the cards.
The scores were 114-112 Fury, 113-113, and 115-111 Wilder.
I assume without the knockdown, the judge who had it 113-113 would have had it for Fury too, (but I haven't checked that).

 

You are giving far too much credit imo. Very very few times in the fight did he throw caution to the wind and go all out. Maybe once for a short time. Given his power and the fact that he was getting consistently outboxed this doesn't really do that much for me. A great warrior would have went after Fury with much more conviction and passion imo, particularly after getting outboxed for so many rounds. *

He just kept throwing right hands here and there and hoped like hell one would land. Admittedly he did straighten a couple out later but it took forever. He was hardly going to come out and not throw a few right hands in the last rounds. Fury is not a big puncher and Wilder has immense reach. Add this to the fact Fury worried much more about getting under them then countering and there's not really that much risk in throwing a few.

* I think it's no secret Wilder has some stamina issues and i have a feeling he's a bit leery of letting it all hang out unless on top. Moving forward i am quite interested in seeing his durability tested.

 

Good post JT … And I will add that the fight was there for Fury to take.. He wasn't active enough with his countering, and more importantly he didn't get his right involved enough and should have thrown more combos because his movement was better and he had the distance measured a lot better than Wilder.. And he was having some success with this and scoring points when he did .. I didn't like Ben Davison telling him in between rounds that he was going to win the fight just with his left.. I think a more active Fury, letting it go more, takes this fight … And I do not see much comparison with Marciano to Wilder

 

Good post JT … And I will add that the fight was there for Fury to take.. He wasn't active enough with his countering, and more importantly he didn't get his right involved enough and should have thrown more combos because his movement was better and he had the distance measured a lot better than Wilder.. And he was having some success with this and scoring points when he did .. I didn't like Ben Davison telling him in between rounds that he was going to win the fight just with his left.. I think a more active Fury, letting it go more, takes this fight … And I do not see much comparison with Marciano to Wilder[/QUOTE]
Given the fight was in the US Davison's advice was particularly naïve.UK pundits forecast that if it went to the cards Fury would be robbed.
Wilder and Marciano are chalk and cheese.The former explodes with a big shot , often after doing little for the round,the latter was a relentless grinder.