What Makes A Fight/Card PPV?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Jackatomic, Dec 9, 2018.



  1. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True but there is a thing called tickets sales too, advertisement, sponsorships etc. If all that isn't enough to pay Whyte, Chisora and an awful undercard then they are getting overpaid.
     
  2. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It should be for the very elite fighters who command/demand the highest purses, and therefore revenue required to pay that to see it live.
    But then you get Eddie Hearn, who polishes any turd possible as a pay per view fight, and as long as people buy it, he’ll serve it.

    I’d happily pay PPV for Lomachenko, Canelo, Usyk, a Wilder Fury rematch, and Joshua v anyone worthy.

    But Whyte Chisora, Amir Khan etc, not a fooking chance do They demand or deserve extra PPV revenues, and they won’t be getting them either, that’s all about promoters fleecing public.
     
  3. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    The penny is dropping on here big time with some excellent contributions on this thread
     
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  4. Jackatomic

    Jackatomic Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Really interesting to hear. Wonder will many resist the next one.
     
  5. Thorpe28

    Thorpe28 New Member Full Member

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    A top tier world title fight (Like someone else mentioned 2 of the top 4 in the division or a unification fight)
    Maybe a current world champion in a relatively easy defence would be a nice chief support
    Maybe a good domestic scrap for a British title fight, a genuine 50/50 ideally
    1-2 world title eliminators
    Few prospects in up coming but I want some big names in 3-4 main fights
     
  6. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    You would pay PPV for AJ to fight anybody?

    Really?

    I would only pay to watch him fight Wilder or Fury.

    Wouldn't even come close for any other fight.
     
  7. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It never did anything other than drop with me. I've always thought PPV for boxing was a disgrace.

    It was acceptable in the very early days with sky, where you would get three good fights from the UK, then switch to the US to see fights like DelaHoya-Quartey, which we simply wouldn't get to see over here otherwise because Sky needed to buy the rights from HBO. Obviously this pre-dated Youtube, streaming etc...

    The problem is that as with anything, the more they see easy money from the mugths, the more the quality will go down. You then had UK only cards becoming PPV (Khan-Prescott and Nicky Cook-Alex Arthur FFS!). Then you had stations competing for the latest up and coming prospects like Joshua on the grounds that they will make him a PPV star, which means they have to find a way to put his fights on PPV. The way they did it with Joshua was very clever, putting him and Whyte (a domestic level fight between two prospects at the time) as top of the bill on a stacked card to sow the seeds of Joshua being a PPV headliner, then putting any old crap involving him on PPV.

    The whole thing has gotten ludicrous over the last few years. It's a tried and tested formula, take two half decent domestic fighters, get them to gob off at each other a bit, do a sky head to head and the morons will buy it. Bellew-Haye, Bellew-Cleverley, Chisora-Whyte. Advertise it as a "stacked card" despite 90% of the fights being mismatches. Bob's your uncle. Meanwhile, the fighters who were getting a few hundred grand (still very good money for 3 months work max) are now getting eight figures a fight and as a result, the top fighters are only bothering once or twice a year. Meanwhile, the mugths repeat the old "oh it's only a few pints" mantra. Which genuinely isn't the point. Subscription TV was supposed to be for people to watch elite sport. Like someone said, now it's just endless minority sports and repeats, with fans expected to pay again for anything half decent. People talk about promoters not being able to pay the fighters enough without PPV. That's because even mediocre fighters have started to expect paydays way beyond their actual ability thanks to the ridiculous proliferation of charge-for-anything promotion.

    Personally, never paid for a PPV in my life and never will!
     
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  8. Unforgiven

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    It's a sad state of affairs where people are saying "it's the only way fights can get made!".

    Frankly, with all due respect, Dereck Chisora can **** fight off if he's saying he needs a couple of suitcases full of cash to get in a boxing ring with a good fighter again. Same goes for Dillian Whyte.
    It's insane.
    Why should hard working normal people with a modest amount of spare cash, most of who already subscribe to sports channels on TV, or other TV, have to fork out an extra £20 for a single half-decent fight, so that these guys who haven't even made the grade of world champions can get paid a million quid or something for a 12 rounder ??
    WTF is that about ?
     
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  9. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Exactly. People are looking at it backwards.
    The only reason these chumps are saying they need a million quid to fight is because they know they can try it on with the hordes of "PPV mugths". The promoters and broadcasters have that same agenda.
    If people stopped buying, they'd have lesser expectations, more reasonable demands.
    And if not, they can go off and fight Hungarian laborers on Eurosport for a few grand, if they prefer.
     
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  10. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    Articulated very well mate and surely nobody disagrees with what is a good summary of how we got to the Pay per Pudding events these days.
     
  11. TBooze

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    Pro Boxing has always been about the money, it is perhaps the ultimate capitalist sport.

    If a Promoter thinks they can make money and has the ability to do it, then a bill will be PPV.

    On the bright side, at least we now have PPV, I am old enough to remember closed circuit fights, now that was a pain...
     
  12. BodyBlaster

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    I think you mis-read, didn’t say anyone, I said anyone worthy.
    That means Fury and Wilder, but if as suggested a Usyk fight looms next year I’d pay for that too.
    I’ve no interest in watching him fight anyone else at this point, I’ve not seen Miller to know if he’s anything other than noise.
     
  13. BXNG101

    BXNG101 Active Member Full Member

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    The views of the few hundred members on this forum won't matter a jot to PPV sales for Sky.

    I don't pay a penny towards normal Sky or Sky PPV but what annoys me is that the massive reduction in the number of Saturday night fights and when they do put one on, the quality is dog****. Saturday night fight cards used to be good.

    When they do decide to put a ppv on, that's usually dog**** too now. The paying casuals don't get it though and they won't ever get it. So Sky and the fighters keep winning.