Why does Whyte not get the respect he deserves

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  1. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1). okay, what about after that fight then?
    2). because he has belt and Ortiz doesn't?
    3). Breazeale doesn't really have much choice, Haymon will be the one keeping him on ice
     
  2. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Erm...
     
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  3. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Used to think that but I've lost faith in Hughie now
     
  4. MooMan

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    AJ knocks him out early if they re-match, Wilder knocks him out and Fury schools him even worse than he did Wilder. Whyte is overrated, the casuals love him for some reason. I cannot take to him
     
  5. macademics

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    Whyte has a very good puncher's chance of stopping Wilder. If Molina, Stiverne, Ortiz can buzz/hurt Wilder, Whyte can definitely throw a spanner in the works. As long as his chin holds up, he is dangerous for Wilder and team Wilder know this. If he can get inside of Wilder's range, he could very likely land something big on the inside.

    Whyte came along at the wrong time. AJ is a media darling in the UK. Plus he tarks bare rubbish at times.
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I've re-watched the AJ-Whyte fight more times than anyone on this forum, and rounds 2-5 were very interesting.

    Whyte back then was 40% of what he is now. And he was standing and trading with AJ at will in the middle of the ring, pushing AJ back.

    He had absolutely no issues connecting with AJ both up and downstairs, and he's body punches caused AJ A LOT of pain. AJ was gassing and hurting due to the body shots, but tried to push threw... he succeeded when Dillian lost energy and composure due to bad conditioning.

    Only other 2 fighters than went toe 2 toe as effectively as Dillian (or more so) was Wlad and Povetkin. But pov lacked the overall power, and Wlad was a one trick poney with his cross...

    Dillian will has power from multiple angles.... and he's jab is very effective against AJ who does little to move out the way... this aint gonna change in the rematch...styles make fights and Whyte's style is wrong for AJ.

    Rematch going to suprise a lot of people.

    Dillian did remarkably well in his fight with AJ.
     
  7. MooMan

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    I think Wilder jumps on him, Whyte wouldn't be able to keep Wilder off of him
     
  8. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Aye, his head movement is poor and Wilder's shots travel fast. He gets lit up
     
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  9. macademics

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    Wilder has no inside game, that would be the worst thing for Wilder to do. He is better off throwing his usual pawing jab and letting the right hand fly when Whyte tries to close in. Remember Whyte is bigger then Wilder is, Wilder is skinny and tall. It's on him to keep Whyte off him early and land that great equalizer.
     
  10. MooMan

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    I disagree that Whytes style is wrong for AJ. What even is Whytes style?! The style that is all wrong for AJ is a slick awkward boxer with movement and we all know who does this well!
     
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    I should of wrote that better, IF Wilder jumps on Whyte then Whyte would not be able to keep him off. His stupid pawing jab that he does will not work!
     
  12. macademics

    macademics Active Member Full Member

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    I understand what your trying to say, but Wilder is not a high volume puncher. He is better off trying to time Whyte and KO'ing him. Wilder's balance issues and over-commitment to his punches makes him an extremely open target when he misses. It is far too dangerous for him to jump on Whyte and risk getting caught with something flush on the counter or mid exchange/trading. Catching Whyte coming in is the smarter tactical move, he is explosive and Whyte is easy to hit when he is trying to move in.
     
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  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    He didn't get battered for the rest of the fight, that's the thing... maybe in the 7th round he lost he's competitive edge... but between 2-7 he was VERY competitive.. and had AJ on the backfoot.


    And with all due respect **** the eye test... it means jack. What matters is how you control the fight throughout... Dillian is more fighter than boxer... but he ain't a pushover for any fighter.

    What are we supposed to praising? Who cares if he get's your praise or not. He's number 3... so he's done something right.

    You whole tone is very dismissive! Decemeber 22 then April then we'll see whats up.
     
  14. Aydamn

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    The Jab - AJ has no answer for.

    The counter - Dillian is a natural, AJ leaves himself exposed when attacking.

    Body shots. - AJ doesn;t take body shots well as we learned from the first encounter... and Dillian is hitting harder now.
     
  15. BoxingABC1

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    he did mate, i know you've said you've watched it a few times, but AJ bullied him in that fight. Was some of it down to his shoulder? probably, but it was still a pasting. But as i said, there's no shame in it, and they were both domestic level at that point anyway

    It does mean something, but i agree it isn't the be all and end all, which is why i went on to his resume, and my eyetest comment was literally just one sentence.

    Well, the OP started a thread and i answered it, so him? and he's not No.3, that's Deontay Wilder. He's 5 with the ring and 4th with TBRB.

    I am very dismissive, i don't remotely rate him.