Sources: Deontay Wilder-Tyson Fury fight generates 325,000 PPV buys

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  1. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Shame it didnt make enough money to pay the crack money chicken feed slave wage Hearn was offering him. Im also hearing the number is less from inside experts and Showtime are not coming out and confirming the number they are happy to let the rumour of 325000 get banded about. I heard it made 275000.
     
  3. 6'4south

    6'4south Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Football and Basketball coupled with the holidays are in full swing in America. Truth is neither guy is widely known in America. I actually think the numbers aren't that bad all things considered.
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Solid numbers, wasn't the disaster it could of been but it also doesn't give Wilder the platform to demand 50/50 in negotiations with Hearn and Joshua. They took a gamble to see if they could strengthen their negotiating position and it hasn't really worked.

    24 mill revenue, half goes to the fighters, so your looking at $6 mill each. Your probably looking maybe at another $2 mill each at best from UK PPV sales, so $8 mill payday is a good payday but obviously far less than Hearn's first $15 mill offer.

    While the rematch between Fury/Wilder fight might do better there is no guarantee. Lewis/Holyfield, Ward/Kovalev and Canelo/GGG rematches all did worse the 2nd time round despite the first fights being close and controversial. So the idea the rematch does far more in the US is false. US fans are likely turned off from the first fight due to the controversial decision. I guess the thinking is why pay to watch a fighter to get robbed again and in truth they are right.
     
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  5. Beez

    Beez Active Member Full Member

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    ^^ looking at these numbers just makes me wonder about that 50million guarantee offer to AJ.

    Where the hell did they think they were getting that money from!
     
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  6. madballster

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    That's not a total flop (sub 250k would have been) but its not a success as they would have hoped. Certainly the people who claimed 500k, 750k or 1 million were completely off. Wilder is simply not a draw.

    Imagine the numbers if it wasn't Tyson Fury but it was Louis Oritz II. It would do 50k.
     
  7. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    From the belts they'd take from Joshua after they fixed the judging?
     
  8. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    If that figure is accurate it's been a qualified success. A reasonable return on investment, but Wilder's reputation hasn't been enhanced, if anything he now has a large question mark over the validity of his claim to the title.

    Outside of AJ that was Wilder's best possible opponent for a PPV. So they'll need to give careful thought to just how they would show Wilder Breazeale, is that really a PPV fight now?

    They can roll the dice with Fury again, but he should be sharper, more confident and there will be a lot of eyes on the selection of judge and the cards. There's also no guarantees that the buzz the fight generated translates into sales. I won't be paying to watch a robbery and more will feel that way.

    So it may be time to cut the best deal possible with Hearn and shoot for the big prize. If they're guaranteed a second fight in the US and a reasonable percentage split is the rumoured 35% then why not go for it?
     
  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    I can't believe some ppl here think 325,00 ppv buys wasn't impressive considering it was fury and wilder first ever ppv main event fight especially in the u.s. And hearns is an idiot saying that ppv buys was terrible and he compared it to whyte vs Parker PPV buys who did a million buys but forget that whyte vs parker ppv to order was 19.00 while fury vs wilder ppv to order was 74.00 smh. Hearns is a joke.
     
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  10. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can’t really compare the fights though. The Joshua-Wilder fight was in huge demand at the time and the T-Mobile arena in Vegas wanted to host the fight for the undisputed heavyweight title between two undefeated behemoth heavyweights, so it wasn’t a shocker that Haymon found an investor as easily as he did to cover Joshua’s $50 Million demand.

    Wilder-Fury on the other hand wasn’t in huge demand, since Fury was coming off an almost three year layoff and nobody really knew what he had left. The MGM Grand, T-Mobile arena, and most other major arenas in Vegas weren’t even interested in hosting the fight. Also, from the way the event was sloppily promoted it didn’t seem like even Warren and DiBella knew how much Fury had left in the tank, so they did the bare minimum as far as investing in the fight.
     
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  11. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    filled the staples centre :eusa_whistle::roflmao:
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Hearn couldn't have sold the fight any better than Tyson Fury , in fact there's nothing he could have done to make the fight bigger than it already was.. He is a successful promoter in the UK because he delivers a British product to a British audience. That success doesn't translate stateside as evidenced by the terrible 500K views on regular HBO for Jacobs vs Sergiy Dervyanchenko.
    325K PPVs is a very good number considering it was the first US PPV in 12 years. And the last one only sold 60K.
     
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  13. Southpawswitch

    Southpawswitch Active Member Full Member

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    17,698 attendance, $3.5 million gate. :hsughwiggle:
     
  14. Eveready

    Eveready New Member Full Member

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    Doesn't state if all the 325k PPV buys were in the USA. Could easily be that half of them were from the UK at the £20 price point.
     
  15. Glass Joe

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    Yes, there is no way that they can honestly demand a 50/50 revenue split. I really do believe that they were not expecting (nor they receive) the best version of Fury in the ring and hoped to out on a dominant performance. The dominant performance fell through, and while they sold probably more than expected, the lack of a dominant performance just doesn't quite add up to 50/50.