Old Foreman vs Wlad Klitschko

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ticar, Dec 19, 2018.


Who wins?

  1. Foreman

    34.5%
  2. Wlad

    65.5%
  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    George Foreman is a pastor so maybe god reaches down and helps him smite Wlad.
     
  2. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Wlad couldn't win a battle of jabs against Pulev and was forced to jump on him, and while Pulev has a good jab, old Foreman had a better one and stronger also.
    Wladimir also had problems against feather fisted Thompson, another big guy.

    I never saw Wlad sticking and moving for 12 rounds, strategy he would need to apply in order to beat Foreman.
    He tried against Brewster and got knocked out in 5 rounds.
    Legs and stamina, Wlad doesn't have that in his arsenal.

    After that he was protected with his jab and grab style in Germany.

    Imagine Wlad trying to jump on Foreman after getting rocked by a jab like he did vs Pulev LOL
     
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  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wlad has great footwork , but he isn't a great mover. There's a difference.

    For example , the great footwork of Joe Louis wouldn't help him against say Mike Tyson. He'd need a quicker set of legs to get out of the way of his attack.

    Vitali didn't have great technical footwork , but he was a much better mover than Wlad. Arroela and Sam Peter couldn't get near him and were clubbed mercilessly trying.
    Wlad fought Sam Peters and was in a state of disarray from the first round to the last - running away , holding excessively and hitting the deck 3 times.
    He couldn't fight Peter off him like Vitali did , not even when Peters was shot to bits in the rematch.

    Pierre Coetzer had better movement / athletic ability , a better chin than Wlad and his career was ended by the punishment he took from Foreman.

    Wlad could beat versions of Foreman since there was really 3 stages to his career. From 94 to 97 he was far slower than the 88-93 version.

    Wlad could beat age 44 Foreman and above but the more mobile and high workrate Foreman sprawls Wlad out. Wlad simply didn't have the movement to keep out of harms way and he's unable to lets punches go if he's being pushed back.
    Look at how much time he spent leaning down on Povetkins back. Lennox Lewis wouldn't survive Foreman in that situation ,its inconceivable to believe Wlad would.
    You need length and movement to beat Foreman and Wlad is wanting in both area's..
     
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  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Id give wlads punching power a 9/10, lyle an 8. The difference is foreman and lyle abandoned any sense of strategy or gameplan or defense and just had a bar fight. You couldnt pay wlad 100 million to have that kind of fight with foreman and you know it. Styles make fights.

    Lets see your list of how many fighters you think can stay on their feet after getting hit by 100 right hands and missing an elusive opponent in boiling hot outdoor conditions.

    Foreman wasnt hurt against ali or young and he got up both times. He punched himself out and had nothing left. A 12 year old could have oushed him over. But credit to Ali and young for sticking with a smart game plan and enduring the pain.

    You do realize foreman, especially old foreman, took more flush power punches to the chin from men who had a 60% ko ratio or higher than any other heavyweight? And that his only ko loss was to the #1 hw of all time from exhaustion?

    It was terrible. He made up for it with a good jab and grabs and lean game plan.

    B level guys like brewster and peter got past his jab and mauled him. Foreman has a good jab too in case u forgot.
     
  5. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not a good matchup Wlad. Foreman has the size, chin, punching power, and mental toughness.
    I see Foreman stopping Wlad between rounds 7-10 while being behind on points.
     
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  6. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Young foreman kills him old one looses a decision....but there is always that chance foreman KOs him but I think Wlad comes at his best and plays it safe
     
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  7. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman lost to Morrison and Holyfield. A rather limited top 10 fighter in Morrison and a smaller heavyweight at that time 1991.. And then he was losing to another smaller guy southpaw Moorer. I think Vlad uses his jab and controls the action and Foreman would not look like the big man in there in this fight, and Vlad pounds Foreman into a TKO loss.
     
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  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Harold lederman was demanding he be disqualified in that fight. His first line of defence was illegal clinching. If you can't see that, then you only see what you want to see.
    Like the guy who said Foreman wouldnt be good enough to land a single punch.
    The same guy said Loma vs Mayweather would be an unfair match up for Mayweather. Tells you all you need to know
     
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  9. p4pforkliftdriver

    p4pforkliftdriver New Member Full Member

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    Forman doesn't beat him young or OLD. People just don't get wlad jab is the most deadly to me in history of heavyweight, an left hook is criminal. Tyson fury was the first boxer to be leading on the score cards against wlad, this a 39 year fighter, was champion for 10 years, an he lost 7 rounds to me to Tyson, but if those lost rounds would be the tallied, they would equal rounds lost since the he fought Peters 13 years prior, maybe a few more rounds but not over 12, that is about 20 fights. An you think Forman, would beat wlad, who had rounds that he didn't even get landed on. Sure I will give Forman a punchers chance to knock out wlad, even 40 year old wlad without the real desire to win, with his skills alone, almost beat AJ, an I had him leading by a round going into the 11th. Tyson I always believed he under estimated him (an not the desire he had a few years ago). 10 out of 10 fights with Forman I give to wlad, maybe he loses the 11 fight to Forman.
     
  10. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Put the pipe down.....

    Where was the most "deadly" jab in history against trial horse Purrity.......walking zero defense Heavybag Brewster......and the flash in the pan Golfer who never ever beat a quality fighter....................Fury is a spoiler who stinks the joint out with nil power and he put glass chinned WK in a shell, afraid to let go of any punches.......the same Fury who got all busted up while twice kissing the mat hard by this so called "Bum" "Fraud" etc etc Wilder.........Sam Peter was a no skill caveman who had this so called "deadliest" jab in history on the brink of defeat......against AJ WK was shot beyond shot, the end.

    BTW, Holyfield Foreman would obliterate the Russian Hype job Povetkin.......you dont lunge in with hooks in straight lines against Foreman while using your chin as the only form of defense.................and old PEDvetkin vs old Foreman would also be a epic blow out in Foremans favor.

    The K brothers stunk the joint out for over a decade while hiding mainly in Germany fighting absolute sub par opposition, US networks/Vegas refused to promote their farce fights against no hopers.........both of them are known more for their losses than their wins.
     
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  11. clinikill

    clinikill Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad picks apart Foreman and wins a wide, wide decision. Foreman's face will be so disfigured he'll look like the Toxic Avenger.
     
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  12. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Young Foreman forces Wlad into early retirement. Wlad never beat not met anyone remotely on Foremans level.
     
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  13. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Does anybody remember how Brewster badly rocked Wlad in round 3 with a jab, and basically won that round?
    Now imagine how is Wlad gonna react when he gets hit by probably the hardest jab boxing has ever seen?

    How about those thunderous body punches that sent the tough Bert Cooper running back to the locker room?
     
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  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Coetzer had better athletic ability than Wladimir? Interesting.
     
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  15. p4pforkliftdriver

    p4pforkliftdriver New Member Full Member

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